Saw one of these in a gunshop in Bellevue today. It's all original military, the action is in the white. Gun is either a beautiful original, or it's been restored. I have no need for such a rifle but the price was 530.00.

The gun was beautiful.

It all depends. If spending $530 on a 1909 Argentine to put on a rack so you can look at it and say you own it turns you on, then its probably a good deal. However, if you want it for the action to build a custom sporter its probably not a good deal becasue they can easily be had for $200 or less.

I have no idea what their worth, and only know about them from what I've read by some of you here. I did find the bottom metal unique however.

I have no idea what the collector value of one is.

Sounds like you found a "collector" rifle. Matching #'s are nice but mean nothing to someone who plans on a custom with that action.

You can find some OK 1909 actions with the bottom for around $175-$200 and some really nice one's around $250 at least that's been my experience.


Terry

Numbers all matched.

I don't think that price is a steal, I've seen them listed on the web in the $400s.

One thing to check is the country crest. Argentina ground most of them off.

It is cool to hear that gems like that are uncovered every once in a while.

Regards,

Dan

I may be wrong, but I suspect everyone who says you can pick the actions up for $175-200 hasn't picked one up in the last 18 months or so. Two years ago, you could buy good barreled actions on the web for $125. I have been seriously looking for almost a year, and the very few I have found cost around what a good mint rifle costs, which is about $500. The bottom metal has generally been bringing $125 to 150, and I have seen a lot sell at this price.

Art

I have a pretty nice one (Barreled Action) rechambered to shoot 30-06. NO bottom metal though. $275.00 if your interested. I also have a 1908 Brazillian which is identical to the 1909 Argentine that has had a lot of custom work already done to it (new bolt handle welded on, lugs lapped, ring and bridge ground, tang slot opened, faced, etc. with no bottom metal for $275.00. so they are around. You can buy bottom metal on ebay every once in awhile for $50-75.00

Are you sure that 1909 wasn't in DJs in Bothel?

I got one in a trade the other day that had been sporterized.
All numbers matched and the caliber was left alone,I was going to rechamber it but it shoots
to good. 7.65x53 2600 fps with a 180 grain .311 bullet.

Jeffe,

Where are you seeing VZ-24s for $100? I'm seeing $130-170 for the Russian rebuilds,

Good Mausers are getting scarce. If there were good bottom metal offerings for the intermediates, I think the'y be dried up also.


Dan

Dan,
be warned, the first one has some racey hottie holding the vz

this one has no reserve
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=35726432

this one is 95 bucks, buy it now..
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=35705576



http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=35685818

then again, a local ripoff shop has something that was a mauser 98 before 3 decades under the shower room floors at a stable, with pits like the surface of the moon for 395... cuz it is "vintage"

right next to a 299 chicom sks

jeffe

I appreciate good, old-fashioned marketing!

And a VZ24 under $100 is a good deal. How often do you unload with the bottom metal anyway?

A 1909 for over $500 better be a super-duper collector; matching numbers and in very good/original condition. The bore should be bright and shiney. It would be a shame to break up such a rifle for the action. There are plenty of 1909's out there with good actions (matching receivers/bolts) but pitted-dark bores for under $275.

Other good action donor rifles (good actions/poor bores) are 98/22's and the VZ-24's.

tnekkc,
not at DJs. It's at estate arms.

quote:

Are you sure that 1909 wasn't in DJs in Bothel?

It was in "Estate Arms" right off of Northup in Bellevue.