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Originally posted by ramrod340:
A factory MKX extractor will have more taper on the front edge than the M98. This will allow you to JAMB the case into the chamber and FORCE the extractor to slide out over the rim. This takes a lot more force than say a m700 spring loaded extractor. You can make it a little easier by increasing the taper and smoothing it. However this does also thin the portion of the extractor that catches the case.

You will have far less trouble in the long run if you simply feed from the magazine like the action was designed.

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Stephen,
not exactly .. they are designed for the extractor to be pinched.. its in the manual of arms

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You will have far less trouble in the long run if you simply feed from the magazine like the action was designed.

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Ill figure this rifle yet!! Still not bad for a $75 barreled action find.

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Originally posted by RMiller:
I tried pinching the extractor and that didnt work.

To be honest I was getting really peaved about it not chambering but I knew I was just ignorant so I came here to get some info.

The rifle has been fun to mess around with I got it as a barreled action cleaned it up a bit and reblued it installed a new trigger and put it in a plastic stock that I had to inlet for the bolt handle.

I figure Ill be using it for some hunting this next year but I will have to get used to making sure I am picking up the cases out of the magazine.

My other three bolt actions are all CRF but they all will close on a round in the tube easily.

Appreciate the replies..thanks.

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Originally posted by Lord Frith:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Stephen,
not exactly .. they are designed for the extractor to be pinched.. its in the manual of arms[/QUOTE

Jeffesso,

I have not a clue what the manual of arms posts. I am not sure the manual of arms would save one from a charging buff or Hun (the latter refence is in the past). A DGR, or any CRF firearm needs feeding all the time, it cares not from whom or where, eh? DGR being a catch-acronym for any game gun involving dangerous game or expensive, to the hunter, pursuit where, near absolute, function without fail is imperative. Such failure to capture a loosely chambered round and extract said round fired or not could be life-ending in the extreme or ruinous of a great hunt. All need be aware of "buck fever" and its effects. Is a firearm that can only be fed from the magazine going to be effective in a high stress situation? I am not sure, but think about it, eh?
This is relative to the shooter/hunter and situation in all cases. I am sure I have missed a few good points, but here we are.

Stephen

Aut vincere aut mori

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Originally posted by lawndart:
I would be sure your rounds are fully resized.

How many reload and shoot cycles have your cases been through? They may need to be annealed due to work hardening.

Perhaps you could pick up a box of inexpensive store bought ammunition and see how that works.

z1r is kind of a tool. I just put up with him because he married my sister. Having said that, if the rifle does not behave with some store bought ammunition, Mike (z1r) can sort it out for you in short order.

Before I had my Interarms Mark X converted to an oddball cartridge (9.3x64mm) it gave me trouble when I tried to get the extractor to pop over the rim of a standard (in my case, 308 Winchester) cartridge in the chamber. I replaced the extractor with one made out of spring steel (it was from either Jim Wisner, Gun Runners or Williams, I have forgotten). Anyway, after the replacement it popped over rims just fine.

There are a few items to check out. You have a very good rifle. Do not let it go; it just needs a little tuning.

LD

PS Say hi to my sister for Christmas Mike. I did not get around to writing cards this year.

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Originally posted by LesBrooks:
Find someone that understands how the extractor should work and do the conversion to close on a cartridge dropped into the magazine hole. My job as a young gunsmith was to make all custom Mauser actions feed both ways. I was taught by Al Knight who started his gunsmith business in 1936 in Ft Worth. There are two things to do on the feeding problem. The extractor has to hold the cartridge against the bolt on the opposite side of the bolt face. Each action is a little different in dimensions and I would lay a cartridge on the bolt face and make sure that the lips extensions of the bolt are in contact with the shell case. Scribe a line around on the extractor to show the amount needed for the shell case to start slipping over the case. The inside of the extractor making contact with the case needs to be cut back a small amount to help change the angle of the extractor face from the area that was scribed on the extractor at the start of the conversion. This is a slow conversion with lots of CUT AND TRY. If you take too much off the extractor that fits into the case groove the case will fall back into the action. I kept the Dremel tool and the thin cut off wheels to make any adjustment if you remove too much off the extractor hook by grinding inside of the extractor.

This gives you the idea of how it was done in our shop. All Mausers were made to feed both ways. The inside of the receivers were altered also so that the ejecting case would clear the action and not fall back into the hole.

I think Duane also mentioned some place where he made the Mausers feed both ways. Look at the Link at the top of the page on Making It Feed.

I wouldn't have any rifle that would ONLY feed from the magazine.

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Mauser actioned rifles were meant to operate with a loaded magazine depressed slightly and a final round chambered over a depressed top round in the magazine

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Like a person being charged will be able to more easily slip a round into the chamber than into the magazine. Really? The magazine is nearly foolproof, inserting a round into the chamber is akin to threading a needle.