The 500 Jeff is alive and well. Many have asked for a 4+1 configuration. Here it is...I call this my 6MX 4+1.



The very first production model is on it’s way to Australia. I offer a 6MX 4+1 which includes the proper follower with tall spring along with heat treated 4130 guard screws.

HOpefully the guy in australia will send pics once it's in a stock, I bet it'd look wicked, I always liked the look of Shakari's with its extended magazine.

Red

Is that for a standard M98 or a Magnum Mauser?
What is the length inside the box at the top?
What is the price for that hardware as pictured?
What is the delivery time, please.

It's for standard 98. The configuration allows the use of a standard trigger . Box length 3.5+". As shown $1000.00. My last 4+1 went out Friday. Frames are in stock, more floorplates will take a couple weeks.

3+1's in stock

Thanks, Duane!

Here is the 6MX "3+1" box for the 500 Jeffery.
If it will work for the 500 Jeffery,
it will work even better for the 49-10.
That's the "49-Bore/.500-Caliber/.338 Lapua Magnum Improved of 2010."

A few more views:









A Mauser, standard M98, in 49-10 caliber is needed.
I shall ask Rusty McGee if he is willing to accept this mission.

I have a Waffen Frankonia Mauser M98 in 30-06 that has German claw mounts and a 4X Waffen Frankonia scope.
This seems to be a milsurp Mauser ground free of any markings and remarked Waffen Frankonia.
Probably brought back from Germany by a GI in the 1960s.
Purchased from Rusty McGee a few years ago .

I also have a 1909 Argentine Mauser in .338-06.
Unknown gunmaker, but a good job.

Also a Whitworth Mk X that was a .458 WinMag, already converted to .458 Lott, by Rusty McGee.

Which would be best to convert to 49-10?

The front wall of the box is massive. Very cool.
Inside length of the box is about 3.505".
Perfect for the 49-10.
Still fits in length for a .375 H&H capable action.
Does not require the .416 Rigby length corrruption of the M98.
Less opening to the front is required, even than for a .375 H&H.
Just 3.5" to the feed ramp, instead of 3.6".
less under-cutting of the locking lug recess required, even less than required for a .375 H&H.
I like that. A Standard M98 Mauser is about 3.4".
I can live with a standard Mauser M98 opened up to only 3.5", mostly to the rear.

BTW,
Duane Wiebe only charges $475 for this heavy duty box and floor plate one-piece assembly.
Follower is $49.00.
Screws and follower-spring extra.
I think the package deal is only $635.00, according to his website.
This is an incredible deal compared to what Sunny Hill charges for a drop floor plate (with screws)
that has to use the factory sheet metal box from an M70 Classic .375 H&H: $533

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A Mauser, standard M98, in 49-10 caliber is needed.
I shall ask Rusty McGee if he is willing to accept this mission.

I have a Waffen Frankonia Mauser M98 in 30-06 that has German claw mounts and a 4X Waffen Frankonia scope.
This seems to be a milsurp Mauser ground free of any markings and remarked Waffen Frankonia.
Probably brought back from Germany by a GI in the 1960s.
Purchased from Rusty McGee a few years ago .

I also have a 1909 Argentine Mauser in .338-06.
Unknown gunmaker, but a good job.

Also a Whitworth Mk X that was a .458 WinMag, already converted to .458 Lott, by Rusty McGee.

Which would be best to convert to 49-10?

Ummm....the obvious answer is the Whitwork Mk X...especially as Rusty has already opened it up.

Jim,
I think you are right.
Thanks for the encouragement.
I will spring this one on Rusty later.

Ron,
I look forward to reading about Rusty’s work progress…the M98 Mauser and 49-10 are somewhat made for each other.

Yes Jim,
Mauser 98 and the 49-10 (aka "12,7 x 68 mm Mauser" aka ".500 Tornado") just seem to be like Jenny and Forrest Gump, like peas and carrots.
M70 ain't bad either.

Another donor rifle idea for the action:
An FN Mauser that is a .375/.338WinMag right now ...
which is more useless to me than a .458 Lott ...
and it is not opened up yet.
So Rusty could make it a fresh fit with minimum opening to the front.
3.5" is not much more than 3.4", but way less than 3.6".

Midway has a stainless Gentry 3-position M70-style safety for the M98 in stock, to replace that side safety...
Stainless barrel and a matte black action with a stainless safety shroud:
Cute eh?

Duane sent the the extra long action screws to me today, arrived via USPS, mailed two days ago. Amazing for snail mail.

I can get out my bastard files and start fitting that box into a stock to see how it matches up to the action before I drag it over to Hilltop Gun Shop at Falls of Rough.

I might eventually get around to fiberglass-boat-building on a Brown Precision stock to make it fit.

The 6MX 3+1 seems to be the same as the 4+1, but without the coffin floorplate.

Ron,
Your FN Mauser will work just fine for your build and will be easy for Rusty to match to Duane’s 6MX bottom metal. Also good to know about the bottom metal; perhaps Duane would sell a kit that included the standard floorplate with spring, the coffin floorplate with the longer spring, and action bolts for each setup. 3-down for US hunting and 4-down for African DG hunting…a perfect solution!

Steve is using two of my M98 FN Mauser commercial actions for my .500 caliber and .423 caliber rifles. I’m using the Satterlee 3-position left side CM safety on both and rifles will have Cerakote finish applied by CAS II.

You should have a nice mix of CM and SS.

From the Big Bore Forum:

And the first US Marine to win the Congressional Medal of Honor and live to see it is walking and talking in Kentucky too.
A solemn thanks to Dakota Meyer.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po...nt-says-hes-no-hero/

As you were ...

Rusty McGee is piecing this together from parts I drag over to Falls of Rough KY.
Thanks Rusty, and again thanks to Duane:

Gentry 3-position stainless Mauser safety ordered from Midway.
Timney trigger Rusty ordered from Brownells I reckon.
Duane Wiebe 500 Jeffery bottom metal for standard Mauser 98, I ordered from Duane, and he delivered in a few days.
The FN Mauser is still wearing a .375 /.338WinMag barrel.
An old Tupperware stock from 1987, maybe Butler Creek, as a first try to see how the metal goes together ...
The standard M98 action screws that came with the FN were used,
though some "left-long" action screws came with the bottom metal kit from Duane.













This is the rifle with 4 cartridges shoved into the box.
It will only hold 3 down properly,
but the 4th one can be pressed in far enough to feed off the top of the box when the bolt is closed.
That makes for a CRF 4-shooter without having to pinch the extractor.
The box is roomier than it would be for the 500 Jeffery for which it was designed.













49-10 cartridge lengths:



For this rifle, the max inside box length is a hair over 3.500", maybe 3.505", or "+3.500"," as Duane said.

The Winchester M70 is +3.600" or about 3.625"

The Ruger Hawkeye is +3.400" or about 3.425".

This suggests 3 COLs for the 49-10, depending on the action used:

3.4": Ruger Hawkeye
3.5": Mauser with Duane Wiebe 6MX 3+1 box (500 Jeffery)
3.6": Winchester M70 with RUM box and Sunny Hill drop floor plate and McMillan Winchester Safari stock.

But adding a re-inforcing steel plate to the front of the RUM box, and tapering it into the feed ramp would make that M70 a "+3.500" also.

All the bullets shown can be loaded to well under 3.400".

The shorter length loads feed better in all the rifles.

I reckon the new COL max for the 49-10 is 3.400".

Anyway, it is just a trial, and it worked nicely.
Needs a new barrel and a new stock, and the bolt face needs to be opened up to fit the Lapua Magnum case head ...

Maybe I need to make this one a switch-barrel for both 49-10 and "47LM" ...
Uh-oh, I am weak again, one more wildcat:

.475/.338 Lapua Magnum.

That will be easy to make brass for:
Just neck up the .338 Lapua Magnum to .475 and go shoot it.

Headstamp will be easiest ever. A single "4" stamped in front of the upside-down "L" inside the Lapua shield logo:

4[7] .338 Lapua Magnum

Maybe add a "5" and a "/" after the shield logo to really get fancy:

4[7]5/.338 Lapua Magnum

Also gives slicker feeding and more room in the magazine than the 49-10, due to the 47LM not being blown out at the shoulder.

Back To The Future:

The 47LM



"Scope lightly and carry a big kick and you shall go far."
Theodore Roosevelt, from The Happy Hunting Ground.

Great stuff. What is that action - FN?? Is it an old FN action or something new?

Nakihunter,
Thanks.

It is an old commercial FN Mauser that used to be a 30-06, IIRC, acquired from a guncrank friend in Anchorage, Alaska in 1987.
Gunsmith Willis Fowler and his apprentice worked on it, for me, back in 1987, in Anchorage.

I am guessing it could have been made sometime between 1957 and 1987 ... need to do a little research by serial number to say for sure.
But similar FN Mausers were sold by Herters, etc., in 30-06, etc., back in the 50s and 60s, IIRC.

The bolt body and bolt release were jewelled and the bolt face opened up back in 1987,
when it became a .375/.338WinMag.

Rusty McGee installed the Gentry safety, Timney trigger, and Wiebe bottom metal a few days ago. 2011.

It has been a work-in-progress for the last 24 years.

"Scope lightly and carry a big kick and you shall go far."
Theodore Roosevelt, from The Happy Hunting Ground.

There are many others on this site who have repeatedly stated that the Gentry products are no good.

Now that you have that safety installed on your action, please comment on how it is working out for you.

Is it a tight fit or sloppy? Does it work easily or is it hard to put on safe?

Any other comments.

(It looks great)

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Originally posted by 22WRF:
There are many others on this site who have repeatedly stated that the Gentry products are no good.

actually what several of us have said is that they are hit or miss in quality control. 180 degree out of time is a 100% failure..

anyting about 2% failure is a product in need of qc.

ever put one of these on, kevin?

This Gentry safety is working just fine as just installed by Rusty McGee.
It is very positive in 3-position detents.
Very easy, smooth, and quiet in operation.
Maybe Gentry got the stainless ones "good."
Maybe Rusty McGee is also good at installing them.

Rusty had no trouble with this one.
It mates perfectly with the top grade Timney trigger for M98 standard Mauser.

The first Lapour safety he put on a CZ for me, he had to send back to Lapour to be de-bugged before he could install it,
even when following proper procedures and using the proper jigs/tooling, or whatever you call the "fixtures."
He took note of what was done and could fix any bugged Lapour safeties himself now,
and he is installing another one of those on the 500 Mbogo No.2, which has a 1:9" Twist 23" stainless Pac-Nor barrel.
Got enough 500s, need another .475.

quote:

ever put one of these on, kevin?

not a Gentry. Years ago I put on a Dakota (with the help of a fellow who had the proper tools to mill the slot and do the grinding. I recall that it was nice and tight putting it on and worked well (gun was later sold).

I would imagine that one would never get one out of time if one ordered it from the maker and had them install it!!! From the photos it really looks nice (at least to me).

And here is the other thing. Have those folks who have bitterly complained about the Gentry put out 100% in their career?

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"Got enough 500s, need another .475."

I think there is an old saying that says
"like you need another hole in your head".