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I am assuming a shaving of brass, but copper solvent isn't freeing the ejector. The ejector has very little motion back and forth, but will rotate ??? I removed the retaining pin by the way... which now resides in never neverland. I've tried cold, heat and brute force... no joy yet. Sako style extractor removed before the application of force. Mike D your eyes are still sharp, that was a piece of brass and with the light tapping method it poped out. Problem is there must be more of same further in. I do however now have 3 times the motion up and down. To be continued.   Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | ||
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Tap the boltface smartly on a piece of hardwood to pull by inertia the plunger and (what I suspect is) a broken spring. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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If you can get the ejector to move rearward, push it back and use a dental bur to scrape the edge of the hole free of foreign metal. If worse comes to worse you can leave the cross pin in place and drill the ejector back enough to where you can get the opening cleaned up. Sometimes I've purposely stuck a 3/32 tungsten to the ejector with my TIG torch and pulled it free. Go slow, use your head, or, hire it done. Good luck! _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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Soaking in Butches, but inertia is my next try. All and all it doesn't move to clear the opening, a broken spring could well be the issue, it was sudden. The morning after now and I froze the bolt overnight in the freezer, also no help when wailing away on the wooden bench top. Starting to look like the excuse for a new rifle. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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Borrow a lead ingot from a bullet caster and try the inertia trick on that with the ingot on concrete or steel. Work benches are notoriously giving even though they seem solid. If the ejector is able to be rotated then it is not seized in the hole but the hole more likely burred at the lip. | |||
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How did that ejector and hole get so battered? I would leave the cross pin in place to prevent it from spinning and drill it clear. _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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 The photo shoots down the broken spring idea.  I suspect Westpac is right about the burred hole. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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The burring would be the dental pick, and I think the picture makes it appear far worse than it is. Sadly, I do however agree that drilling appears to be the only solution at this time. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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I have removed lots of stuck ejectors in the Rem.bolts caused from leaving bluing salts when blued at the factory. Most of these were under warranty. Turn the bolt face up and put Hoppes #9 into the hole area. Some will get down into the rust area. Use a 1/6 in. punch and a very small hammer. Lightly tap on the ejector end and at the same time hold the punch back off the ejector about .025. It will bunch off and the ejector will start to come out. Don't hit with enough force to up set the back end of the ejector. I use my lightest hammer used in engraving for this project. It may weight in at 2 oz. I will bet rust is the problem. | |||
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Westpac is correct and Vapop and I agree, it needs to be drilled out. Send it to me and I will get it out for you. Or send it to Westpac. Jim Jim Kobe 10841 Oxborough Ave So Bloomington MN 55437 952.884.6031 Professional member American Cusom Gunmakers Guild | |||
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Between 10 and 12 o'clock in the ejector hole there appears to be a line of lighter colored material. Was that brass that flowed in there? Or is the line just caused by lighting? Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Jim, Westpac... thank you for the offers... I'm giving it one more day soaking in Hoppes right now, totally submerged. Mike I agree that the apparently lighter colored material "could" and should be brass. I have been tapping with a 1/16" punch and a small hammer. It is just that the amount of motion is so slight as to slow that process. Note that the bolt has been bushed to allow the Sako style extractor addition. I am thinking that some silver solder may be the culprit as well. Just don't know yet. Since this is at the top of my list of things to take care of, I'll keep you all posted. Thanks again. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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I've gotta tell you I'm a little concerned at the apparent ease that the edge of that hole was deformed. From the picture on my humble screen, that bushing looks like it was silver soldered, which could have serious implications if the bolt nose or entire bolt head were not properly protected during the soldering process. Based on what I see in the photo, were I you, I would seriously contemplate having the bolt head and lugs tested. FWIW of course. _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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308 Sako, The retaining pin is with your missing matching socks which we all know have been eaten by gremlins who defecate extra wire coat hangers (the useless kind from the dry cleaners). This is without a doubt an undiscovered scientific fact as everyone I know has plenty of useless wire coat hangers and is missing socks. Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Is this a bad time to start another PF vrs CRF dust=up?   Just kidding. I am curious to find out what caused the problem. I have a Rem 700 that my daughter found buried in a riverbank and although the trigger, magazine spring and extractor were rusted away the ejector and spring still work perfectly. It is about as simple as a system gets. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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There wasn't a cold dead hand wrapped around it was there?  There's probably some poor, one legged bastard with bear tracks down his back looking for it.Just in case, I didn't mean to offend any poor one legged bastards with bear tracks down their backs with that statement. And to prove it here's a smiley face.  _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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I agree that the temperatures involved could be an issue, and the apparent deformation is solely from my earlier not so calm attempts with the dental pick. and a hard steel knife tip. The rifle with this barrel has just shy of 1600 rounds according to it's log, and the bearing surface is the best of any rifle I own, nearly total mating. The lugs have shown absolutely no tendency to deform, though I do appreciate the concern. Several weeks ago when looking around for one part or another I saw a couple of extra springs and a new ejector... I wonder where that was. Time to put in another couple of minutes tapping. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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That don't look like silver solder to me; more like Force 44. Silver solder would be yellower. Regardless, drill it out. Jim Kobe 10841 Oxborough Ave So Bloomington MN 55437 952.884.6031 Professional member American Cusom Gunmakers Guild | |||
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I guess you will eventually get that ejector pin freed up but more to the point, where did the brass shavings come from if that is what has caused this problem? Not the sort of thing you want to have happen on a hunting trip is it? Perhaps the 'sako' style extractor is shaving brass somehow? | |||
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308Sako Mike D your eyes are still sharp, that was a piece of brass and with the light tapping method it poped out. Problem is there must be more of same further in. I do however now have 3 times the motion up and down. To be continued. If it moves a little bit, if you have a compressor have you tried giving it a shot of compressed air through the retaining pin hole? for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside | |||
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You sir are a bloody genius... I do have a compressor and that is the only thing I have not tried. Well off to the garage... Will report back Well with the blow tip I have I was not able to seal against the bolt body and probably only got 20-25 psi behind it. Blew out the oil, but not the ejector. It gets mailed to a professional tomorrow. Thanks one and all. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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Mailed off the offending bolt and it was recieved today by the choosen man. He had this to say in an email: Got your bolt today and fixed the ejector. You would have never got it out. You had two issues with this. Someone cut the ejector spring way too short and whoever did the Sako conversion and filled in the factory extractor grove failed to debur it. There was an area just below the face of the bolt on the rim of the nose that was holding the ejector down. I look forward to receiving the bolt back, which will also have the oversized tacticool handle now affixed, a nice comfort for my style of shooting. Thanks to all. Even with this if the spring hadn't been cut the spring would have had sufficient pressure to push the ejector out. Never cut the ejector spring if you want to have failure free ejection. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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Recieved the bolt back today and it is better than new. So I guess it pays to know when to stop pounding on an object you value and let an equipted professional deal with it. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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