Help settle a bet. A friend and I were discussing the Charles daly and other Zastava actions. Neither of us has seen one of their "Magnum" rifles but I bet him that the magazine dimensions on their 300 Win Mag would be the same as their .30-06. He says otherwise.

Anyone out there have one of these that they can measure the inside rear width of the magazine box on?

Thx.

30-06 and 300 win, same length, 300 actually is a wider box

458 is USUALLY in the same

375 length is a 300 winmag box, cut open in the front, with an extension (not kidding) riveted to the sides, giving about .33 or or longer

jeffe

Thanks but I'd like some actual measurements of the width at rear not length. Of course it should be wider but I doubt it is. I don't want to have to buy an action to prove or disprove it.

I don't have a magnum Daly but I can check a magnum and non mag MKX and non mag Daly in the morning.

Thanks, that would be super! Ramrod340, any idea how many rounds the magnum Mk X holds?

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Thanks, that would be super! Ramrod340, any idea how many rounds the magnum Mk X holds?

Both my 375 and 358 norma hold 3 down. The 375 is a Whitworth the Norma is an FN. I get 5 down with a normal 06 based case. My wildcats with the shoulder forward like a Gibbs will get 4 down.

Thanks, That tells me a lot. I suspect the magazines will measure the same roughly as the .30-06 sized mag does otherwise it would hold four down.

I appreciate the help.

the rear of the interarms 375 mag is ~ .985, inside, from memory a couple months ago. I don't recall the width off the top of my head.. Now, if someone would measure a 30-06...


jeffe

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the rear of the interarms 375 mag is ~ .985, inside

Well keep in mind these were all measure before coffee. First up my Whitworth is only .932 on the inside to get .985 I would have to remove one full side.

Anyway here is what I measured this morning. I tried to measure each at the same point. In the front due to the rounded corner this was a little difficult. These are all inside top and thickness for the rear tang(rear wall of magazine). Sorry how this looks but I don't know how to make it spread.
Action Rear Frt Length Tang
MKX Mag .918 .712 3.407 .115
MKX 06 .918 .713 3.407 .114
Daly Mag .917 .713 3.407 .115
FN Mag .907 .707 3.312 .116
M98 1909 .889 .705 3.303 .119
Whitworth .932 xxxx 3.68 .057
(375)
Laying the Whitworth mag next to the normal short mag MKX you can see in the rear metal has been removed. Since the front has the sheet metal extension spot welded on the inside I didn't think a front measurement would be of any use. I bought the FN Mag so I'm unsure if it was factory or altered by the smith that built the rifle.

So my take on it is comparing the MKX 06, MKX mag and Daly Mag the measurements are the same. But they are larger than the FN style and my 1909. The Whitworth 375 has been opened as much as possible.

Now time for coffee.

i sure could be wrong! and have been before...

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i sure could be wrong! and have been before

Please say it isn't so!!!!!!!!! If I had a $ for everytime I've been wrong in my 56 years I would be a very rich man.

Thanks Ramrod. That confirmed my notion. I just knew the mag boxes on the "Short" mags was the same as the non-mags.

I appreciate your time & effort.

I was looking at one in .30-06 last night and you couldn't get a single round to feed from the magazine. It would hang up pretty severely. When you think about it, it's amazing that these feed at all given none has the proper magazine geometry and all share the same siderail dimensions.

-Ax

I have two here, one in 7MM Rem Mag and one in .300 Win. Mag. Both are Mark X. Both feed and extract beautifully with the factory magazine box and follower!

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I have two here, one in 7MM Rem Mag and one in .300 Win. Mag. Both are Mark X. Both feed and extract beautifully with the factory magazine box and follower!

I've never had an issue either. I have 25-06, through 35W in the 06 based case. 7mag-338mag in the short mag and then the 375. I even have numerous Gibbs style improved 280 cases that feed as well. MY 22-250&243 will also feed with the spacer in the back of the box.

But then again I have never had a high $$ custom with a lot of work done to the feeding. I have always used a M98 and mostly MKXs. So that is my frame of reference.

I hear ya. I have a Mark X in .308 that feeds well. I was surprised to see the CD fail to feed a singly loaded round from the magazine. I did not have more dummy rounds to see how things went with more than one round.

That could be a statement about the drop in quality from the late Mark X's to the newer Zastava actions. Or, I may have looked at a lemon. I'm not trying to make any sweeping statements here.

My previous comment about feeding was more of a backhanded compliment to the mauser design considering how well most will feed rounds they were not specifically built for.