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Rim diameter of approx. .615" -- What cartridge(s)?

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31 August 2017, 00:39
Utah Shotgunner
Rim diameter of approx. .615" -- What cartridge(s)?
Have a 98 Mauser bolt (no rifle) that has a rim diameter of approx. .615".

After surfing through Cartridges of the World and Google, I can't find a cartridge with a rim diameter close to this.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
31 August 2017, 01:42
ssdave
8x50R siamese mauser?
31 August 2017, 01:47
Utah Shotgunner
quote:
Originally posted by ssdave:
8x50R siamese mauser?


It is an Interarms Mark X or Whitworth bolt.

Can't imagine someone would use it for a Siamese project.
31 August 2017, 02:25
ssdave
Probably for a weatherby cartridge, then.
31 August 2017, 04:34
Utah Shotgunner
Also posted this question on another forum.
One suggestion was the .348Win & .450/.500Alaskan

I have some .348Win cases. Very close to a 'perfect' fit to the bolt face.

When I was looking for cartridges, my bias for 'normal' Mauser cartridges showed up. Never even considered the rimmed rounds.
31 August 2017, 05:37
Gary MacDonald
Any extractor on it ? Some military Mausers (few) were made in 303 British .
31 August 2017, 06:11
Utah Shotgunner
quote:
Originally posted by Gary MacDonald:
Any extractor on it ? Some military Mausers (few) were made in 303 British .


Yes, it has an extractor that holds the case firmly to the bolt face. Without the rifle cannot know if it is fit properly for feeding.

.303 Brit has smaller rim.
http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd303british.jpg
31 August 2017, 15:30
Gary MacDonald
Rimmed cases have a unique extractor . Like the dif between a 1917 enfield and a 1914 enfield .
Hope this makes sense , no coffee yet !
31 August 2017, 19:31
z1r
Perhaps the reason it was for sale is because someone made a mistake when opening up the boltface?

If it is an Interarms bolt, it wasn't factory made that way.

It's possible that some one intended to build a 416 Rigby and went a little too far.




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31 August 2017, 19:38
jeffeosso
over shot for a rigby/weathery/etc ?

custom rim diameter for a 585 nyati or other gibbs -but-rebated ?


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
31 August 2017, 20:06
Luckyducker
These are some cartridges with that approximate rim diameter.

348 Turnbull
.369 Purdey
.400 Jeffery/.450-400 NE
10.4x38Rmm Swiss Vetterli
.45-75 Winchester
.470 Turnbull


Dennis
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31 August 2017, 20:11
Utah Shotgunner
quote:
Originally posted by z1r:
Perhaps the reason it was for sale is because someone made a mistake when opening up the boltface?

If it is an Interarms bolt, it wasn't factory made that way.

It's possible that some one intended to build a 416 Rigby and went a little too far.


Never thought it was a factory made. Bolt face has clearly been opened up from the .532" magnum dimension.

No way to know what the original intention was. Parts originally came from a police auction where the actions were stripped before being destroyed. Likely it was a completed rifle. Most likely stolen and never claimed by the victim.
06 October 2017, 01:02
Tapper2
It seems a little large for a 45-70, but it would probably work. I have made 45-70 rifles out of mausers that work just fine with a bolt face close to .614. You just have to be careful how you stack the cartridges in the magazine.


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06 October 2017, 04:29
TCLouis
Tapper2

How much trouble was it to get them to fed properly ignoring the simple fix or stacking the rimmed bases?



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06 October 2017, 08:37
craigster
quote:
Originally posted by Utah Shotgunner:
Have a 98 Mauser bolt (no rifle) that has a rim diameter of approx. .615".

After surfing through Cartridges of the World and Google, I can't find a cartridge with a rim diameter close to this.

Any ideas?

Thanks!


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06 October 2017, 21:26
Tapper2
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TCLouis:
Tapper2

How much trouble was it to get them to fed properly ignoring the simple fix or stacking the rimmed bases?[/QUOTE

Obviously you have to stack them so the rim doesn't lock the cartridge from going forward. I just kept filing the edges of the mag until it worked the way I wanted it to. Ii takes a while but it works.


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09 October 2017, 17:03
Gary MacDonald
PM sent to OP regarding a trade .
Gary