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I understand that Rem. is offering a triangle shaped barrel?? Have not seen such, but curious if anyone knows where to seek some details?? | ||
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I took a wild ass guess and went to the remnington site http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_r...00/model_700_vtr.asp Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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that's really cool looking man. Red My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them. -Winston Churchill | |||
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To each his own, but I've seen one in person and I was unimpressed. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Damn, it may take months to remove that image from my brain! I'm sure it may appeal to some but not me. I like neither the shape nor the brake.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Aesthetics aside, it seems like a practical idea for rigidity and weight concerns. But I would wonder about the claim of improved heat dissipation, especially in the thin sides of the barrel. It seems to me that it risks uneven expansion and more potential for poi problems after a few shots. ______________________________ Well, they really aren't debates... more like horse and pony shows... without the pony... just the whores. 1955, Top tax rate, 92%... unemployment, 4%. "Beware of the Free Market. There are only two ways you can make that work. Either you bring the world's standard of living up to match ours, or lower ours to meet their's. You know which way it will go." by My Great Grandfather, 1960 Protection for Monsanto is Persecution of Farmers. | |||
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put that barrel on a Browning A-bolt! Ha! Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Was looking for some real world test data other than the Remington comments, but sure it will come out soon. Might be like the early appearance of the 15/16's in Across the Course matches when many were really hooping and hollering about the "toy,plastic" guns. That all stopped when the scores/performance left most of the bolt guns and other Service Rifles way down on the score board listings. "Pretty is as Pretty Does." | |||
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I'll get spanked by my blue and wood buddies but I like it! I don't especially care for muzzle brakes but the only use I'd have for that rifle includes ear protection. I'm gonna have to try one. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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I dunno, a triangle barrel with one of those rubber donuts could be just the ticket. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Complete with sponga-form grip inserts. ______________________ Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. | |||
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Recently visited with my 'smith other evening and putting together .223 match rifle w/ Rem. action and using one of my 40X triggers and inquired about the new Rem. trigger and he was not very pleased with the item. Says it is absolutely not adjustable and can not access the internals to attempt to do so?? Glad I saved several of the triggers I inherited over the years for even the std. Rem. trigger has served very well for me as well as the somewhat more adjustable 40X trigger. Since I have seen this triangle barrel arrangement, I will make one of my own and see how it works out. | |||
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Looks like the guy that developed the marketing for the Buick fender ports moved to Remington. | |||
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Perhaps the person that designed this is a descendant of the guy who designed the Edsel. Craftsman | |||
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If he is, he's stinking rich. And in spite of the lack of acceptance, the Edsel was a pretty good car for the day. Butt ugly, but good. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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with these sights for irons!  | |||
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They actually come apart fairly easy if you know what you are doing. I tear them down regularly. They are a big improvement over the old Walker style. Though I still like that trigger as well. If your gunsmith needs some help figuring the new trigger out, he is welcome to call or email me. _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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Hello Westpac, OK, I will pass the word on to him. I would assume then that the new triggers are adjustable if you know what you are doing?? | |||
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I'm a blued steel and wood guy, But....I like the triangle barrel! ________ Ray | |||
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Looks like another development from the Lemington gimmick department.  | |||
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remmie taking design cues from dessert eagle? the pictures look like a design shop mock up.. on how poorly the brake AINT deburring, the flats aren't polished, and the "foam" insert doesn't have an even line.. well, it IS St Patrick's day.... way to go big green opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Oh no, now Leupold will have to make scope objectives with a triangular cutout! Proud DRSS member | |||
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if they'd only put a barrel like that on a blaser 93 and chamber it in 45/70 we'd have to start a new site  | |||
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They are, just like the old ones. _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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Good news then. Checked w/ my local dealer and his suppliers do not have the item in the system yet, but were told by their distributors that they are being swamped with requests and inquiries. Everyone wants the latest and greatest. We will see in due time. | |||
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If they can do triangles then why not octagon and/or half round. | |||
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I have seen the rifle and wonder myslef about the uneven expansion and the inconsistancy of the bore dia. due to the machining of the flats after the rifling was done. I will say that IMO the new X pro trigger or whatever they are calling it is a marketing gimmick. As someone said above the internals are inecessable and the adjustability is poor. The old basic remington trigger was better by far.  6x NFR Qualifier NFR Champion Reserve World Champion Bareback Rider PRCA Million Dollar Club 02' Salt Lake Olympic Qualifier and an all around good guy! | |||
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Well, if 3 sides are good, then 4 must be better. Who wants to go in with me on an order for some Krieger square barrels?  | |||
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Someone else above said that the X-Pro is a great improvement over the old trigger and that they are fully adjustable. I would tend to believe him since he actually works on them. _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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My dealer buddy in South Texas says he also has sold a longer-barreled version with no ports. The cross section returns to round at the muzzle. Remington calls them "flutes" on that model but he says its the same triangular profile. Only Remington would put an ear-shattering brake on a truck gun. But the good news is you can bob two to four inches off the muzzle and have a real truck gun with no brake. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Ah another lure for tha tackle box. Eagles from above | |||
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If anyone is interested "my" local gun shop has one of these in .308 for roughly $675, that would be plus shipping and tax (if you are in Tx). I handled it yesterday and it feels pretty good, decent trigger. I have zero interest in whether this gun sells or not but it might keep me from buying it to play around with......email or PM me if interested. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I would but I committed to buy one from my friend down south. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Your gunsmith is wrong if he was talking about Remingtons new X trigger. I bought a new VSSF II in .220 Swift and I used the propane torch to free up the adjusting screws and I ended up with a 22oz pull with no creep or overtravel. It's not fantastic, but it's as good as the old style trigger. Tom | |||
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