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I have a friend/customer who is looking at building a lazzaroni and we are looking into what actions to use. I have a Remington 7Mag action. I know the boltface is not the same. Any other problems i should expect? Anyone have experience with these cartriges?


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in 1999/2000 savage offered their stuff in some of the laz carts.. not that much difference


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I had a 8.59 galaxy built on a Rem 700 SA.



Sold the rifle to a friend so still have access to it.

There are a couple of challenges:

1: the 580 case head is very big for the Remington bolt face. It can be done, but there is very little room left.



2: the plunger ejector is not really strong enough to throw out a loaded round so a loaded round doesn't really eject. It has a tendency to just lay in the action after words. Not really a big deal.

You may want to find a action with a slightly larger bolt body than the Remington.


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I had concern of opening the boltface that far.


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I guess remington chambered some of their bolt actions in 338 Lapua, so it is possible. I'd also worry about strength of the action and chamber though.
 
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I'd also worry about strength of the action and chamber though.


The 700 action is as strong as they come.


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Well, if winchester had some of their 1" tennons chambered in WSM rounds stretch, then another 0.063" of steel in the remington is "extra," until you go even bigger than the WSM. I've seen R700 bolt faces opened up for the lapua, and I just don't have the same confidence as when it's in 308. As I said, I've seen it done, but I don't think there is a lot of room for error when reloading.
 
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I have absolutely no worries about strength of action, but i was just curious about opening the bold face up that far. I think it is plenty feasible. The customer might have an opportunity to purchase one used at a good price but if that falls through we migh go forward with the build.


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