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Has anyone out there considered or tried building or converting a model '86 or '71 into the 500 S&W?
What do you Think? Will this be the new monster lever action?
Do you think these or the 1895 can handle the PSI?
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With the 500 being spec'd at 60k PSI it's going to take a stout lever gun. I thought someone was already making one too but I can't remember who it is. As far as I know, the '86 and '71 can't handle the pressure but I think the 95 would. Problem is that it would take a gob of work to get it to function out of the 95's magazine. You'd have to open it way up to accept the extra diameter of the 500 case.
 
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Wasn't Wild West Guns,, making up or producing their own lever in that caliber?

I remember reading some where they where going to make one, looking some thing like along the lines of the 336 Marlin


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Thanks for the replies.
How does the PSI relate to cup? I thought I had read that the '71 could handle around 47K in cup and the newer '86 somewhat more.
I took a look at Wild West but they don't reference the 500 Smith.
I wondered about the 336 being a good choice since they use it for the 444 marlin but I don't know about the 500 sw since it is rated at such a high PSI. Is the 60, K for sure? I thought Lyman had it listed at 50K?
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Yes the 500 S&W is rated at 60K
 
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I have a Puma in .454 Casull which is a 65,00 psi cartridge. A Puma uses modern metallurgy in a replica of the 1892 action to handle this stout cartridge. I have as yet, not noticed any problems with this action (other than a split forend at 10 rounds). Why wouldn't that work with the .500 S&W ??? Puma also uses the action for the .480 Ruger, which of course is a lower pressure round.


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Thanks for the info on the Puma. That is worth looking into. This is for a fellow I know who saw my 450 alaskan last year and now wants one with the same barrel contour but in the 500 smith. I think he will either have to go for the 50 Alaskan- I also offered to buy the barrel from him or buy a Puma and start there.
I wish the factories were more willing to give specs on the ability of the rifle to withstand specific pressure limits.
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Frank,
sit tight.. there's a "new" belted 500 pistol round that is coming out... and it will work fine in lever guns.

I didn't do this one, so don't blaime me..

mean while, a puma in 480 ruger should hold you over

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Not for me Jeffe but thanks for the info.
We are looking into the puma now.
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
there's a "new" belted 500 pistol round that is coming out


What are you talking about jeffe?


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