Oberndorf Mauser Claw Mounts??? - Update and More Photos

30 August 2008, 22:57

I just picked up this rifle and I would like to mount a scope on it. Who is the best at building reproduction Oberndorf Mauser claw rings for the original bases?

By the way, I thought I would never find one of these guns. Oh happy day!

Jeff

30 August 2008, 23:03

Masterifleman

Try these folks. I'm sure they're very pricey and I don't know if they fit them or not. I'd call them and ask for particulars.

http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/

You'll have to click on "Scope Mounts" and scroll down to the blue colored "Claw Mounts" and click on that.

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30 August 2008, 23:40

tiggertate

Lots of people can do a good job. NECG is one, Lee LeBas is another. L&L Enterprises

And JJ at Champli's in Enid, OK. Those are the most commonly named. I'm sure Duane Weibe can too. Ralph Matini, on and on.

Severalof the postershere can do it too like Z1r, Jim Kobe and more.

Time and money; that's all they'll want.

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30 August 2008, 23:52

scr83jp

quote:
Originally posted by jawheeler:
I just picked up this rifle and I would like to mount a scope on it. Who is the best at building reproduction Oberndorf Mauser claw rings for the original bases?

By the way, I thought I would never find one of these guns. Oh happy day!

Jeff

Check www.griffinhowe.com

31 August 2008, 00:02

z1r

I'm interested in a source too but also a source for the rear quick release mechanism. I have an Oberndorf sporter but it is missing the claw mount innards.

Hope you don't mind my piggybacking on your thread.

Nice rifle by the way.

Aut vincere aut mori

31 August 2008, 00:15

tiggertate

A source for that will be rare. I think it will have to be reverse engineered. I have a Rigby 303 action circa 1899 with a similar rear-post ring arragement but lever-release instead of push-button. I still can't find anything commercial remotely close in nature. Gonna be mucho-chippo project for huntingcat.

Z1r, I'm going to send you the Win 52 for the bolt handle if you're still willing but I have to finish the bottom metal first. It will change the depth of the stock and I want to be sure the handle is proportional in length to the finished rifle. Thanks.

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31 August 2008, 07:40

jawheeler

Well TMG I've had a chance to research this gun a little. It is an 8x57S Type B double square bridge and is the same gun photographed and featured on page 177 chapter 13 of Jon Speeds book The Mauser Archive. Made August, 1944 serial number 126407. You can imagine my surprise to turn the page and see the gun in Speeds book. It is also mentioned in volume I in the list near the back of that book. It makes it pretty special to me.

31 August 2008, 19:00

jeffeosso

Mike,
there's a couple ebay parts sellers still selling claw mount bases, from time to time, and they are AMAZINGLY simple ... in fact, like a spliting wedge, when you get it, they are perfect and could not be designed any better, btu wow are they simple.

However, making the rings is another issue! every set has to be custom fit to be perfect with the bases.
jeffe

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31 August 2008, 19:13

Bent Fossdal

jawheeler,
Nice rifle!

Just remember that unless you are going for a straight tube scope, like a 1,5-5x20 Leupold,
your scope will be mounted ridiculously to high and to far to the rear.

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31 August 2008, 19:23

ForrestB

quote:
Originally posted by jawheeler:
Made August, 1944 serial number 126407.

Somebody had some serious pull to get a sporting rifle out of the Oberndorf factory in August of 1944. Reading through Speed's book, I wondered about this very situation. A few sporters were still being produced very late in the war. I wonder who was in a position to even have the need for one.

In any event, that's a very nice rifle and I'm glad it found you. Does this mean we'll see it for sale soon???

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31 August 2008, 20:50

jawheeler

quote:
Originally posted by ForrestB:
quote:
Originally posted by jawheeler:
Made August, 1944 serial number 126407.

Somebody had some serious pull to get a sporting rifle out of the Oberndorf factory in August of 1944. Reading through Speed's book, I wondered about this very situation. A few sporters were still being produced very late in the war. I wonder who was in a position to even have the need for one.

In any event, that's a very nice rifle and I'm glad it found you. Does this mean we'll see it for sale soon???

Forrest,

This one is a keeper. But, I will have a few other Oberndorf Mauser guns from my collection go to the auction block. I have to be careful how much money I have tied up in these guns, it can get out of hand quick.

31 August 2008, 21:09

z1r

quote:
Originally posted by ForrestB:
quote:
Originally posted by jawheeler:
Made August, 1944 serial number 126407.

Somebody had some serious pull to get a sporting rifle out of the Oberndorf factory in August of 1944. Reading through Speed's book, I wondered about this very situation. A few sporters were still being produced very late in the war. I wonder who was in a position to even have the need for one.

In any event, that's a very nice rifle and I'm glad it found you. Does this mean we'll see it for sale soon???

Mine is dated April 44, a type S in 7x57 on a standard length action. Single square bridge. I wonder if the rear scope base ever had teh guts? There is no front base.

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31 August 2008, 21:16

jawheeler

Mine is dated April 44, a type S in 7x57 on a standard length action. Single square bridge. I wonder if the rear scope base ever had teh guts? There is no front base.[/QUOTE]

z1r,

Your gun may never have had the parts installed especially if there is no evidence of a front base having been installed. Is there any sign that it may have had a base attached to the barrel shank?

13 September 2008, 02:26

jawheeler

I have had a chance to really look the gun over since it arrived. It is interesting to note that some obvious shortcuts were taken in this late production gun. For example the trigger guard is not contoured and many parts are not completely finished ie machine marks showing. Action is not as smooth as my pre wwI and pre wwII guns. I like the solid side rail action and double square bridges though.

Here are a few more pics.

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14 September 2008, 23:29

jawheeler

quote:
Originally posted by cummins cowboy:
is that the normal bolt handle they put on those??

Yes, the very late production commercial guns had that type bolt handle. It is actually bent a little lower and better to clear a scope.