OK Guys for the first time since last fall I have no projects waiting duplication. (After the one currently loaded)

So now is the time if you need your semi for your winter project.

Heck I'm going to have to cut a couple spec stocks just so I can't work on my "honey do list"

but but but i do not need another project!i do not need another project!!!!!!!!i do not need another project

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i do not need another project

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So you're saying that everyone should disregard the threatening email, letters and phone calls from your wife about: "No more gun stuff until you get your chores caught up?" The threats of horrible torture and death aren't true then ?
he he he he he he he he he he he he he

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So you're saying that everyone should disregard the threatening email, letters and phone calls from your wife about: "No more gun stuff until you get your chores caught up?" The threats of horrible torture and death aren't true then ?

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Ramrod- I've pm'd you twice just before business trips to Denver area, but never got an answer. Once about a year ago, and once a year before that.
If you can do a stock out of my wood for an '09 Mauser, please pm me atjerry@jerrymontgomery.org

thanks

Jerry,

First let me apologize I try an answer any and all PMs and/or emails. Maybe in my defense last fall I spent a month in the hospital and had 4 chest surgeries. I have no clue as to your timing. But still not a valid reason for no answer.

ramrod340@hotmail.com

I have a number of 98 patterns that would work with your 09. My pattern $125 plus return shipping and insurance.

These are the ones I took a picture of for someone else last month.

Are you able to do left hand Mauser actions? I picked up a new Zastava left hand 270 and 375HH here on AR. Would like to make new stocks as a winter project.

If you have a left hand stock I can copy it. Or we can take yours from the grip and maybe change the butt. As much as I wish my machine will not make a mirror image. Can only copy the pattern.

Paul- I wish I could hold them in my hot little hands, but since I can't, the 3rd one down looks best to me. I'll want to put a steel grip cap on it so I'll need to trim it down anyway.

The blank is 33" long and I'll want to put an ebony tip on it- can I trim it down? Sal Glesser of Spyderco Knives (Golden) is a good friend and I keep scraps of fancy walnut for him.

Do you want me to tape a check to the blank? I'll need an address.

Thanks for the response.

Jerry
The 3rd one down is a basic MKX Whitworth factory stock. If you have felt one of those it on the thinner side. 4th down has the pancake but more meat. You can remove wood but no put back.

I try to keep my patterns long enough so you can install a tip or not. Cutting off for you LOP is no issue. Just need to know what the plan is. Had someone after the fact say they wanted a longer LOP plus they were going with a open checkered butt. Had 2 mounting screw holes that JUST barely covered.

33" should be fine can always block one or both ends.

This bobc's Whitworth



This is the 5th down I call an old classic


2nd from the top a new classic. I don't have a finished copy of the 4th down.

The fifth down (your "old classic") looks to have less drop, otherwise very similar; that might be better. I need your address, please.
My PM address is jerry@jerrymontgomery.org to keep from boring the boys.

anything for a mexican mauser?

Top 2

On the last photo of three stocks, the 3rd one suits me best. Is that the old classic?

You're only 70? I'm 76 and know what you mean about getting a young buck to get the work done.

Sorry Jerry that last picture bottom stock is a Springfield.

Hey at 65 I'm a spring chicken.

As to Woodhunters Duplicator. MAN I WISH.

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Don't they have machines today that do all of that stuff in the blink of an eye with a bunch of 0's and 1's stored on a CD or memory stick? he he he


I'm such a prick !

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Originally posted by speerchucker30x378:
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Don't they have machines today that do all of that stuff in the blink of an eye with a bunch of 0's and 1's stored on a CD or memory stick? he he he

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I'm such a prick !

They sure do,, and those that choose to use those 0's and 1's tend to look down their noses at those who work by hand,,,,,, kinda' like being a deplorable........

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Don't they have machines today that do all of that stuff in the blink of an eye with a bunch of 0's and 1's stored on a CD or memory stick? he he he

Sure they do. That way you can spit out all those M700 M70 etc that all look alike.

But if my poor old wallet can't afford a duplicator that will do a mirror image it sure can't afford one of those 0&1 machines.

The one I did see required you to basically run the pilot the full pattern to form a memory the first time.

Heck tell me why some look down at people that use a power head to checker. Or the ones that look down on someone using a manual duplicator vs attacking the blank with a chisel and rasp.


Boy I need

Don't care how you get there the end result is what counts.

Hey speer I'd be happy to store that 0&1 machine for you. Will even clean the chips off.

Hey Paul-Send me your address and I'll send you a blank!

I sent you an email

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ramrod340

I don't actually gots one of them 0&1 machines, I did however read about them in the National Enquirer about 35 years back. But, like carbide tooling and smokeless powder, I think they are probably one of those passing fancy's that given time, will go the way of the horseless carriage and the self loading shotgun !

PM sent, thanks.

Jim

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I don't actually gots one of them 0&1 machines, I did however read about them in the National Enquirer about 35 years back. But, like carbide tooling and smokeless powder, I think they are probably one of those passing fancy's that given time, will go the way of the horseless carriage and the self loading shotgun !

Yep just a fad. Kind of like those old Harley Davidsons from 1906. Company will never last.

Maybe everyone is waiting for the election & don't want to turn over a new great looking stocked rifle.

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Maybe everyone is waiting for the election & don't want to turn over a new great looking stocked rifle.

Don't even want to think about it.

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Originally posted by flylo:
Maybe everyone is waiting for the election & don't want to turn over a new great looking stocked rifle.

Totally uncalled for.........party pooper!


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I set-up, run and do some "on the shop floor" programing. They're great for repeating identical, precision parts. But, my idea of 'custom' is every one is a bit different than the last one. Start doing by CNC and pretty soon you're GunWorks or one of the other gunmakers where if you want something different you're SOL. Even if you're doing your chambering with a CNC, you've still got to take the time to dial-in. I've never taken the time to figure out how many barrels I could thread & chamber in a day with a CNC tool room lathe, but if I hustle, I can do 4 a day on my manual tool room lathe. That's if I don't have any hang-ups. Manunal 'craftsmanship', at its basics, is nothing more than self control,,,,, a quality many lack these days.

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Originally posted by flylo:
Maybe everyone is waiting for the election & don't want to turn over a new great looking stocked rifle.

Well, I don't know too much about Mercan politics. But if Clinton actually is really sick, it's possible that the Electoral College won't be too worried about her taking out contracts on them and having them (PUTINIZED) for not supporting her and they might let Trump be king for a term.

Mind you, that rumor about the Putin and the Clintons killing off the competition and people who call them bad names and stuff is strictly gossip and conspiracy theory stuff !

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Yes, the basis of the skilled tool user! Rapidly vanishing among the youth of today.

I have a son-in-law that has a civil engineering degree and boy can he build apps for his cell phone etc. BUT the instructions have to be on the bottom for him to pour water out of a boot.

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Originally posted by ramrod340:

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Yes, the basis of the skilled tool user! Rapidly vanishing among the youth of today.

I have a son-in-law that has a civil engineering degree and boy can he build apps for his cell phone etc. BUT the instructions have to be on the bottom for him to pour water out of a boot.

Hence, the reason for "shop floor programing". When the programmer isn't a machinist and doesn't know tooling, sometimes ya' just gotta' fix it, so it works like it should.

Don't blame you. I'd be doing that myself given the chance. Just put my fly rod up for the season.

Paul- I've sent you a couple of pm'S that the blank went out yesterday (fri) but they were kicked back. You should get it tues or wed. Letter and check enclosed.

Maybe I should stop using my computer to set the BBQ on.

Paul

Can you do rear grip type of pistol stocks?
Think XP-100 style with a rear grip.

Have several OEM type stocks to use as a patterns,
but want a couple cut from the Blue laminated type of wood, I also have the wood etc.

Overall length will be 16-20",
with a pistol type grip underneath.

Here are some samples, of what I am talking about,

http://russoriflestocks.com/Pistol_Stocks.html

Tia,
Don

Yes but I need your pattern. This customer wanted to reuse so had to grip the back and couldn't get a clean cut.


Should have looked at your link first. Yours would be easier. Issue is how to mount and if the pattern has to remain original

The customer supplied his factory stock and wanted a copy. However he didn't want any damage to the exterior of the stock. A spur or any number of ways I could have attached it and made a more finished copy but it would/could have left damage to the original. So I talked it over with him and simply clamped a block from the back of the action to the back of the stock. Didn't damage the original left about the middle 1/2" of the inletting along the back edge I couldn't finish and the back outside.

I suggested even simply gluing a box that could be popped off. He didn't want to risk it. His stock his choice. He was happy so that is what mattered and his original looked like new.

Some stock I've copied the bad won't come off so I made up a jig to clamp the pad then mount the jig to the head. For sure taking a stock and letting it be set up as a long term pattern if better and easier. Some people just want their stock back unharmed. That is why they have to pay more. For sure a lot more work for me.

Thanks Paul

Questions,
How much of an extension do you have to have on the front/rear ends for your machine to cut too the dimensions of the stock?

Here is some photo's of what I want,
The second photo shows both types of what I am think of, and the last photo on the bottom, is what I finally ended up with.

http://specialtypistols.infopo...410087466#4410087466

As you can see I adapted a Choate rifle stock into the pistol form, as I want at least a 3 shot mag for hunting etc.
On the top portion of the grip, (rounded knob), I installed sling stud and will more than likely do this with all the stocks.

This site has a bunch of LR shooters, and we are attempting to find a place to have all the various rear and center grip type pistol stocks made,
as there is a real shortage of these types of stocks for the various pistols/handguns we use.

Tia,
Don

Don
If the question is "If my finished stock is 16" how much over 16" do I need the blank to be"?

While more is better scrap can be glued on each end. Key is to insure that your rear cut on the butt is actually in the finished wood. So while you could probably get by with an extra 1/4 if the set up was perfect I would prefer more like 1"+. Top and bottom I trim to about 1/4" clearance on the band saw then remount and use the duplicator.

The question I've been afraid to ask: can you do two piece rifle stocks?

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The question I've been afraid to ask: can you do two piece rifle stocks

The smart A$$ answer is some. Only pattern I own is a couple of 99s. I will copy some 2 pieces. But I need the pattern and it depends on the action if I can get in close enough since my cutting head will not rotate.