I need to get a taller front post.

it looks like a NEGC...

looks like a racknagel / new england custom gun flip up sight that has been HEAVILY bead blasted.

http://www.newenglandcustomgun...%20Ramp#.VUQ1Kxz3-iw



i don't think it comes in sizes, but I am not a consumer of that exact sight.. pop it out (push down plunger, tap out, and read number on the bottom - our measure, in MM)

That's it. It looks like it hasn't been raised in a while. Maybe I need to try and lower the rear sight instead of raise the front sight.

If it is what I think it is, we call them "black outs." They are a large, popup sight that is highly visible in low light or dense brush. They are commonly found on dangerous game guns for going out after wounded bears or other big game and are generally meant for point blank range shooting up to 50 yards. If it's set up properly, I think you will find that it will sit about .020 to .040 inch taller than the standard front sight. The reason for this is that even though it's larger than normal, people tend to take more front sight in low light which makes the gun shoot high. The extra height compensates for this and pushes the muzzle down. To shoot them in good light the bead is rested on the top of the flat of the rear sight and not in the cup.

It seems as though this site only comes in one size, but there are other sites available in different heights which fit the same ramp. maybe that is what I need.

If you don't use the twilight sight then I would just order a regular one the right height. Brownells has a height calculator on their site or at least used to.
Don

taller front sight means lower point of impact - there should be a number on the base, or you can assume it is the "standard" .. order put calipers on it ..

Jeff:

Here's the Recknagel website catalog #7, in German.

http://www.recknagel.de/Joomla...ieleinrichtungen.pdf

I've gone through all of the sights in the catalog and I haven't, as yet, made a positive ID !

I also searched out Holland and Holland but it doesn't seem to be productive.

Just curious. Have you positively identified the sight as yet to your satisfaction ?

May I ask what you desire to accomplish ? Just ID the sight. Repair it? Upgrade? Restore original?

If this gun is actually used, would a fiber optic front sight not be in consideration ? Naturally that would degrade from the originality and value of the all inclusive originals.

Just to drift off subject a bit, I have one of the ancient King Gustaf, Swedish, Military Mauser's, all original matching numbers in excellent condition. The rear sight is a twice fold up type rated out to 600 meters. Apparently a sniper setup.

I'm chewing my cabbage twice when I say your front and rear sight have to be coordinated and match tested for point of aim and accuracy. But you already know that.

Just as a matter of curiosity I will appreciate knowing it you have as yet identified the front sight. I log this info in my data files and pass it along.

TKS>

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Originally posted by wetibbe:
Jeff:

Here's the Recknagel website catalog #7, in German.

http://www.recknagel.de/Joomla...ieleinrichtungen.pdf

I've gone through all of the sights in the catalog and I haven't, as yet, made a positive ID !

bottom of page 5, EMAILLEKORN und KLAPPKORNE

"folding night sights" is the translation - but enameled and folding would be a better one...

the three parts listed are all 6.5m tall, but 27, 19.5, and 18.5 in length,

11220-2565
11240-3565
11260-3565

I would say reading german helps, but I actually found it scanning

Hi Duane:

I followed your other post and it I absolutely fantastic. So as a complementary prize/award I'll entertain with some stories of my past.

I lived in Africa for several years in numerous countries as in the drilling/geology field.

One memorable occasion was in Tunisia. I was stationed 200 kilometers West of Tunis on the Algerian border. Our contract was with Ralph M. Parsons Los Angeles. It was a USAID financed project. We had diplomatic privileges. So I has my Mom ship my Browning A5 semi auto 12 gauge shotgun. Lew Ditzel was the Parsons project manger and an avid hunter.

I became on very good terms with Monsieur, Le Delegue, the regional person appointed by President Habab Borguiba to rule the district which was one of 26 designated.

We organized a hunt for wild boar which were prolific. The Muslims abhorred pork.

On the appointed day of the hunt, Lew, some USAID employees and some other Parsons employees all came to Ghardimau. Monsieut Le Delgue commanded Guardia National to come and form a driving group of 30-40 persons along with driver dogs.. They were the drivers, we were the waiting shooters.

I blasted 3 boars with my 12 gauge browning with only a rib and a front bead. One boar was shot at about 12 meters as he raced headlong past me. It ran another 75, shot through the chest, before dropping over.

I should add that those boars are very vicious with slashing tusks. There were numerous reports of Tunisians being killed by them.

Jilani, the Tunisian drilling superintendent, half French/half Tunisian, cooked some boar in camp. The Muslim drill crews threw him out and destroyed the cooking pots.

Monsieur Le Delegue invited the Guys to a night hunt. He had a pickup truck. He drove like a maniac with Lew Ditzel in the front seat and I stood up on the bed in back. Whenever he saw a boar EVEREYONE blaste away in the headlights.

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Originally posted by speerchucker30x378:
If it is what I think it is, we call them "black outs." They are a large, popup sight that is highly visible in low light or dense brush. They are commonly found on dangerous game guns for going out after wounded bears or other big game and are generally meant for point blank range shooting up to 50 yards. If it's set up properly, I think you will find that it will sit about .020 to .040 inch taller than the standard front sight. The reason for this is that even though it's larger than normal, people tend to take more front sight in low light which makes the gun shoot high. The extra height compensates for this and pushes the muzzle down. To shoot them in good light the bead is rested on the top of the flat of the rear sight and not in the cup.

Those moon sights should shoot to the same spot as the smaller bead - if the correct rear sight is employed - because they are also bigger at the bottom.

This is why so many express sight leaves are just wide Vs with no flats on top; if you pull the moon sight down into the V as expected, the bottom will force the rear sight lower, cancelling out the likelihood that the higher top of the big bead will cause a low shot.

This situation will also work with peep sights but not with open sights where the top of the bead is expected to be aligned with flats above a notch or V tangent.

The lack of flats on many express sights to cope with a possible moon sight has a down side, though. Any bead must then be pulled hard into the V for consistency - resolve that is often missing when in a hurry. On two occasions when shooting at dangerous/fleeing game, I have failed in this and my second shot has gone high.

get ahold of randy selby in wapiti wy. he specializes in this type of sight