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| Hate to say, but any clean mauser is worth a buck and a quarter nowdays, especialy a FN.
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| Sure but it would be interesting to know whether it was bastardized or not. I'm definately not the old Mauser expert. |
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| One of the reasons I always have my digital camera with me is this type of encounter.
Difficult to say with so little information but I never heard of such a thing like 1917 FN since Belgium was occupied for 4 years..
Maybe a Modelo 1912.
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| I'll head over and grab it. It had "1917" below the crest and no finger slot on the left side. |
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| Why do you say it is a FN ? |
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| Cause the stooopid tag says so. It could be anything as I couldn't see the makers name. I'll go check it out and report back. It can't be anything too exotic or it wouldn't be $125.00. |
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| Only german military adopted Mauser rifles had year of manufacture. |
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| Hmmm......I just sent them a request for more details. Should know more shortly. |
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| Only 1917s I can recall seeing are on Oberndorf GEWs (often Turk-ed) which still have thumb cuts, and the US Model of 1917 - don't have one of the latter handy, but I am pretty sure they say that on the front ring, and lack a thumb cut.
Are you sure it wasn't an Enfield? That would definitely be worth $125 in my book. Of course so would any Mauser too.
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| Not an Enfield and much slimmer receiver profile. Definately no thumb cut. Serial number on the port side below the reciver cut out.
Crest on the top of the receiver with 1917 behind that. I'll be there tom. to pick up a SIG so will photograph the details and post here. |
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| Photos please. Photos.  Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. |
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| Will be over there in a couple hours and take some photos - post later in the day.
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| quote: Originally posted by Macifej:
Was rooting around in the neighborhood gun cave today when I saw what looked like a 1917 commercial FN Mauser. Had no thumb notch, did have the stripper clip cut out. Has some clean but illegible crest and I believe the tag said something Latin on it. Sorry but between my rapidly fading near vision and the very dark store that's all I could see. The gun looked to be unmolested and was very clean.
What the hell was it and is it worth $125.00 on a C&R? Nope didn't get the caliber as I was heading out the door and the tag didn't say.
Any FN-made M-98 type rifle in excellent condition with no thumb cut is probably worth a lot more than $125.00, just for the action.... HOWEVER!! That clunker is NOT an FN, it was made in Spain (Oviedo Armory) in 1917 and is undoubtedly an M93 or M95 type. Unless rebarreled, it is in 7X57mm caliber, and is one of the "weak" variety. Judging by the action, I hate to think what the bore is like. I would save my $125.00 for better use.
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| SR Spanish '93 or what is sometimes referred to as a Spanish 1916. Basically a '93 and NOT an FN. The 1916's had a turned down bolt.  Aut vincere aut mori |
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| Boat anchor or worth salvaging the action for a donor? For which load was this thing originally designed? |
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| Tag says 8mm but it also says FN!  What makes it weak? Design or material? |
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| That action actually doesn't look bad. The pre-98s in general don't handle gas as well as the 98's. The Spanish mausers tend to have heat treat issues. They run all over the board but I've seen many more that were soft than hard. Aut vincere aut mori |
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| Spanish Mausers were originally chambered in 7x57. I'd spend the $125 on something else. |
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| Arent those smal ring large thread? |
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| Can buy a complete like new M24/47 for $175 but it has that idiot thumb hole! Mostly I'm feeling like grinding and filing on something. Buying something new off the rack would be a lot cheaper than trying to make perfection out of something 100 years old. |
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| quote: Originally posted by Macifej:
Can buy a complete like new M24/47 for $175 but it has that idiot thumb hole! Mostly I'm feeling like grinding and filing on something. Buying something new off the rack would be a lot cheaper than trying to make perfection out of something 100 years old.
I have a 24/47 that's an "in the box" arsenal refurb from Big 5 that you can have for $150 plus shipping. |
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| The 93 Spanish while not top of the line like the Swedes and 95 Chilean can be made into nice little rifles. I built this to get my grandkids started in 6.5x55. A 100 gr. ballistic tip at 2600 is very mild to shoot yet deadly on deer. Rojelio  |
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| Nice looking rifle Senor Rojelio. Did you do most of the work yourself? |
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| Macifej, I did all the work. It's not top of the line like a lot of the guys here do and most of the components were cheap, but, it is very functional and 100% reliable and it will keep 5 shots right around an inch.
I built it with a 12 1/4 in. length of pull and all up it weighs 7 1/4 lb.
I have 2 grandsons that are both 8 yrs. old and they can handle it quite well.
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| Most of the Spanish 93s have a badly pitted bolt face and bad bores. Of the hundreds I have looked at I have seen one Oviedo with a decent bore.
I still look at Spaniards though because I have found a few made in Germany. |
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| The bolt face on this one is clean but I didn't loo at the bore cause I wouldn't use the barrel. If it was made in Germany would it not say so rather than Oviedo on the ring? |
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| The German made 93s say Modelo Espaniol 1893 or some such on the left receiver wall and have a Spanish crest on the top of the receiver ring.
They are much nicer than the Oviedos. |
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| So what's the difference between the 93, 95, & 1916? Was thinking about grabbing one of these to test out my grinding, filing, sanding skills by hand. |
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| quote: Originally posted by Macifej:
So what's the difference between the 93, 95, & 1916? Was thinking about grabbing one of these to test out my grinding, filing, sanding skills by hand.
Functionally they are all the same. The early 93's had a square boltface at the bottom, the 95's didn't. The 1916's had the added vent hole in the receiver ring. |
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