THE ACCURATERELOADING.COM GUNSMITHING FORUM


Moderators: jeffeosso
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
P17 Enfield missing safety
 Login/Join
 
new member
posted
I just picked up a sportered 1917 Enfield for next to nothing. I had an idea of turning it into a scout rifle since the barrel was already cut down to 18 inches.

I checked it over pretty well before buying it and noticed the safety was missing, but at the time I thought I could just buy some replacement parts and be back in business. Once I got home I noticed that whoever sportered it had removed the safety by grinding on the receiver until the whole thing was gone. Needless to say I don't think getting some parts from Sarco are going to fix this.




I'm not willing to take this into the woods hunting without a safety, but I don't want to abandon the project. Anybody have any ideas on how to get some kind of safety on here?
 
Posts: 1 | Registered: 30 September 2018Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of dpcd
posted Hide Post
Sure; find of the Model 70 type bolt shroud safeties they used to make; not sure where to get one now.
Do not load it until ready to fire. Or leave the bolt open.
Install a new receiver.
Pretty much your only options.
I would leave the bolt open; not hard to push forward, and down when ready to fire. Practice doing that quietly.
 
Posts: 17364 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Timney, I think, makes a trigger with a side safety ?

Check their website.

Just looked, they don't. As Tom said, round in chamber, bolt up 'til ready to fire.
 
Posts: 8169 | Location: humboldt | Registered: 10 April 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of dpcd
posted Hide Post
Nope; they already have a good side, low scope safety so a timney side safety would be a bad idea.
Or they do until you grind them off.
 
Posts: 17364 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009Reply With Quote
Moderator
Picture of jeffeosso
posted Hide Post
careful tig buildup


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
Posts: 39924 | Location: Conroe, TX | Registered: 01 June 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of dpcd
posted Hide Post
Welding a new safety block on and machining it will cost more than another receiver.
But it is certainly an option...
 
Posts: 17364 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I thought Ed Lapour made a m70-style 3 position safety for the M1917?

He used to anyway, I’ve been lusting after one for years but never got the project started yet....
 
Posts: 174 | Location: Florida, USA | Registered: 14 March 2012Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Austin Hunter
posted Hide Post
http://edlapourgunsmithing.com...on-safeties/enfield/


"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan

"Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians."

Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness.
 
Posts: 3080 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: 05 April 2006Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of dpcd
posted Hide Post
Unfortunately, these are no longer made due to low demand.
As I said above, not sure where to get one now. Unless you find a stray one, no where.
 
Posts: 17364 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I guess that I was lucky.
 
Posts: 8964 | Location: Poetry, Texas | Registered: 28 November 2004Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Butch every time I see those pics I get a tear in my eye. Absolute perfection!
Shame the demand didn’t keep up for Ed to keep making those safeties, sadly I missed the boat
 
Posts: 174 | Location: Florida, USA | Registered: 14 March 2012Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by kala_azar:
Butch every time I see those pics I get a tear in my eye. Absolute perfection!
Shame the demand didn’t keep up for Ed to keep making those safeties, sadly I missed the boat


Not sure of the brand of my safety. It came out of a junk drawer, million dollar drawer, as we call them. At that time Ed said he wasn't making them as he was redesigning them. I see they are pictured on his website.
 
Posts: 8964 | Location: Poetry, Texas | Registered: 28 November 2004Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of LongDistanceOperator
posted Hide Post
Disregard
 
Posts: 7622 | Location: near Austin, Texas, USA | Registered: 15 December 2000Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of dpcd
posted Hide Post
Pictured yes, with a big banner that says we no longer make them.
Get that receiver from LDO.
 
Posts: 17364 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of dpcd
posted Hide Post
Here is your advice; get this and use it as is. That cracked and welded place has no bearing on safety even if it were not fixed, which it is.
 
Posts: 17364 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
The stock Enfield safety is the reason I've made
four of 'em up to suit me.
IMO there hasn't been a better, more fool proof safety made yet.

I have an extra action but, it's missing these parts too.
It hasn't been butchered in that area though.

George


"Gun Control is NOT about Guns'
"It's about Control!!"
Join the NRA today!"

LM: NRA, DAV,

George L. Dwight
 
Posts: 6057 | Location: Pueblo, CO | Registered: 31 January 2006Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Drill a hole thru cocking piece. Put a pin through it. Pull pin out when ready to shoot!

Seriously, I would look into somehow converting a mauser 98 shroud with flag safety


Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC
BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris
Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns
VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear
 
Posts: 2934 | Location: Texas | Registered: 07 June 2003Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of dpcd
posted Hide Post
It would be easier to start from scratch and make a Model 70 type safety. Threads and all.
I like the pin idea, but really, just leave the bolt up.
 
Posts: 17364 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Snellstrom
posted Hide Post
Couldn't an original safety be modified to work with what is left of the modified receiver?
Just thinking outside the box...
But I must admit I am a fan of the M70 style safety on everything.
 
Posts: 5604 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005Reply With Quote
Moderator
Picture of jeffeosso
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
careful tig buildup


Mill(file) a flat spot, and make a block to rebuild the safety "block" and fit .. you could tig it (i would) zero heat issues back there for a decent weld -- that is, it's not likely a critical area, and I wouldn't worry about it-- but you could drill and tap two attachment screws .. borrow a friend's enfield to copy -- refit to standard safety ...

why would I bother? well, you got it cheap, and a drop of O1 is dead soft, easy to shape with hand tools, and blues pretty well .. you don't need hard steel .. 1018 or other "rubbish" steel at home depot could work, but it likely won't blue as well...

it's a weekend project with hand tools ..

total cost? five bucks for a piece of o1 drop .. or 6 for a 18" or 36" piece of 1/4 or 3/8 1018


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
Posts: 39924 | Location: Conroe, TX | Registered: 01 June 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I betcha Mr. LaPour would make up a bunch of safeties if someone made it worth his while!
No reasonable person would make just one or two. But he might make 20. If someone had enough cash for a large wholesale order he might even make a buck or two on the deal.
 
Posts: 2059 | Location: Mpls., MN | Registered: 28 June 2014Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of LongDistanceOperator
posted Hide Post
I would imagine someone could get said cash by taking firm orders...as in prepaid, in a thread with an estimated/ "not more than" price.
 
Posts: 7622 | Location: near Austin, Texas, USA | Registered: 15 December 2000Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of dpcd
posted Hide Post
Doubt it; very low demand for $300 safeties for a rifle that already has a perfect low scope safety. Otherwise he would be still making them. I would not invest in that venture.
 
Posts: 17364 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
A perfectly ugly safety!
 
Posts: 2059 | Location: Mpls., MN | Registered: 28 June 2014Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
quote:
A perfectly ugly safety!


ugly works for me.

The pin idea is something in might approve of.

or do the jeffeosso way
 
Posts: 19688 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
The safety bolster doubles as the third safety locking lug. IF the bolt were to shed it's lugs the bolt has a straight shot to kill you.

1917 actions are cheap, get another one and use it. Whoever removed the whole safety lug ruined the action....IMHO. I personally would not use that one.
 
Posts: 508 | Registered: 20 January 2005Reply With Quote
  Powered by Social Strata  
 


Copyright December 1997-2023 Accuratereloading.com


Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia