I appreciate the patience of several customers who have already placed orders with us on this product, but we've finally got it here.

A true drop-in BDL that has 2deg. draft, straddle floorplate, Oberndorf-Style Release System and can be used with any aftermarket trigger originally designed for the Remington. This will include the following:

Jewell
Shilen
Rifle Basix
Hart
Timney

Hopefully, I'm not leaving out any, but I think that covers the spectrum as far as I know.

Right now we have these only available in Long-Action...(I know I know....why didn't we do the short-action first?)
My thoughts exactly, but I got out-voted. We'll be working on the short-actions soon though and the price will be the same for both.

For In-The-White the price is $99.95 plus shipping and handling.
Matte Blued will be $129.95
Polished & Blued will be $149.95
Stainless Matte will be $159.95


This part is a true one-piece assembly. There are no welds or joints....It is made from a solid drop-hammer forging.

If your stock has been inletted for a factory Remington BDL, you'll be able to drop this part right in without inletting. If you have one of the newer CDL's, then the only thing that you'll have to do is scrape the corners out on either side of the magazine well where it meets the trigger guard.
We picked up a brand new CDL in 25-06 and noticed that they have done a better job on their inletting, but they also tigtened up a radius on there that we just can't replicate, so that's all that's left to do if you have a CDL.
Companies such as McMillan, Brown Precision, and Rimrock should make your install very easy, since they use the old pattern to account of the excessive flashing that's on the older casted aluminum models.

Here's some picks of what we'll be offering.


This is an In-The-White in a factory BDL stock.





This is the matte blued version in the CDL.





Another matte blued in the BDL.




We have a lot of customers who've been asking for a few upgrades to our bottom metal, which have consisted of draft, inside-the-bow release, drop-in on factory stocks, and the ability to use aftermarket triggers. We've done what you've asked and you don't have to buy an ADL magazine box either, since it will use your existing follower, mag spring, and mag box.

Bottom line; you pull two screws, swap mag spring into the floorplate, and put her back together.

Sweet! I'm ordering tomorrow!

For Remingtons! This is like putting $3000 mag wheels on a Yugo. Sorry I'm just down on Remingtons, your stuff is too good for them..... ......
When will they be out for real Custom rifles like M-70's and M-98's? Or even better for your own Action........... .........DJ

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Originally posted by djpaintles:
For Remingtons! This is like putting $3000 mag wheels on a Yugo. Sorry I'm just down on Remingtons, your stuff is too good for them..... ......
When will they be out for real Custom rifles like M-70's and M-98's? Or even better for your own Action........... .........DJ

LOL....

Well, we're looking at about 30 days or maybe more before we have them for the Winchesters. We've been swamped right now with a pretty large customer that has had us diverted away from some of our most favorite projects like the actions and getting these drop-in bottom metals under way.

We've got too many irons in the fire, but I suppose it keeps me out of trouble, whether that's good or not.

Matt, Nice Job. That's a huge improvement over anything ever to come out of the Remington factory. It ought to be a factory standard item for Big Green but instead they'll probably just continue to fumble their way into oblivion.

A Model 70 version should be a big seller.

Matt,
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... standard 98 and mexican mauser/m48 ExACTLY like this, with a detachable box (hint - use winchester or ruger boxes)

jeffe

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Matt,
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... standard 98 and mexican mauser/m48 ExACTLY like this, with a detachable box (hint - use winchester or ruger boxes)

jeffe

That's in the works too and we will be using the Winchester box....Again, I'm up to my eyeballs, but I've got get one thing out at a time.
We've also got the preliminary numbers down for the Howa 1500 too.

Matt, Don't forget to do a Winchester Pre-64 version also. I've got dibs on the first couple M-70 SA and LA Classic CM's in the white...... .........DJ

Matt,
glad to hear it... these would be AMAZING on mexican mausers, and a persan "shortie"... NICE


but, seriously, if you used a 2 part for the box, we could have TONS of fun.

jeffe

Matt, very nice product with very good prices. It should sell well.

Thank you Matt,
I have been waiting (patiently, which is unusual - I must indeed be maturing getting older).

This bottom metal, paired with a Stiller "Predator" action and your favorite McMillan pattern would likely make for the ultimate "beanfield, sendero" rifle at $2,000.00, soup to nuts and a quality barrel to boot (did someone say Boots?).

Everything will happen in its own good time.

I have to agree with jeffe that a Mauser bottom that works with a sheet metal magazine will re-invigorate the mid-priced sporter market. Please do jeffe's Iranian/Yugo length box last (after the 30-06/regular magnum &375H&H lengths). He is now old enough to practice patience as well. It woould really do him some good. He'll thank us both in the end, I'm sure.

Anyway, thanks dude.

LD

PS You had me at:

quote:

we've finally got it here.

Thanks for shipping out my ADL trigger guard, and another vote for the mex mauser, would be a thing of beauty.

Matt, that is great. I'm happy your new bottom metal has hit the mrket. Good on you.

I understand the difficulties in getting something like this from a prototype state to actually being able to produce and sell live specimens. So kudos for that. That said, it sure has been hard on my nerves trying to get an answer out of you guys in the months past. I can sympathise with ever changing deadlines, although they are irritating, but as a customer, it is harder to deal with endlessly unreturned calls and seeming inability to get in touch with your company.

I'm happy you made the product, I ended up getting a bottom metal from Dave Kiff instead.

- mike

While decent affordable bottom metal for a 98 would be nice what I really need is one for P14/M17 series and so does elJeffe if he thinks about it.
Rich

Matt-

Double, triple, quadruple what RR said. Thanks RR.

We desperately need a source of bottom metal for the P14/M17 series of actions.

Come on Jeffe, jump on the wagon.

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Originally posted by triggerguard1:
I appreciate the patience of several customers who have already placed orders with us on this product, but we've finally got it here.

Right now we have these only available in Long-Action...(I know I know....why didn't we do the short-action first?)

Hi,

I was quoted a month delivery in May on the short action version! Can I ask how long it will be now and what the best way of contacting you is?

quote:

Originally posted by lawndart:
...
I have to agree with jeffe that a Mauser bottom that works with a sheet metal magazine will re-invigorate the mid-priced sporter market.

Yep, my thoughts exactly!

quote:

Please do jeffe's Iranian/Yugo length box [next tolast
(after the 30-06/regular magnum &375H&H lengths).

Heh, do the enfield's last!!

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He is now old enough to practice patience as well. It woould really do him some good. He'll thank us both in the end, I'm sure.

yeah, sure... in fact, lemme thank you right NOW ..


I think an enfield/model30 would be an excelent idea... again, with a seperate box!!

So - M98 standard large ring If you use a seperate box, making mag, wide, long, and standard are just swapping a piece of sheet metal. VERY low impact, and move up production


Mauser intermediates- I believe that a seperate box will clear up any geometery issues between the 1996, mexican mauser, and short 98s....

Enfield with the removable mox, this is actually just moving the action screw holes from the mauser and swaping the box.


Okay, I can go with the enfield second... Matt, send me a prototype of the M98 and the Enfield and I'll test for you!!

quote:

Originally posted by 30 Caliber Mag Fan:
We desperately need a source of bottom metal for the P14/M17 series of actions.
Come on Jeffe, jump on the wagon.

And to think that I had a london gun 404 enfield bottommetal for sale for $200, and no one wanted it ... darn.. but I did get a good trade

jeffe

Im want one for my Howa 1500... I was just looking at my rifle, and the only ting that ruins the looks of it, is the floorplate.

I`ll order one of your floorplates in stainless when it comes!

The object of Jeffe's affection. Question. Is the bottom metal for the Mexican the same size as that of the Yugo?

22,
IIRC, ZlR said that they are the same spacing.

I am just being obstinate, i think. but a 96, 1910, 1936, and m48 would certainly get a boost.


jeffe

Will the Winchester parts be for stocks with the one piece or two piece floorplate inletting?

I know...it doesn't take much to convert fron one to two piece inletting, and I have done several, but I'm lazy!

quote:

Originally posted by McCray:
Will the Winchester parts be for stocks with the one piece or two piece floorplate inletting?

I know...it doesn't take much to convert fron one to two piece inletting, and I have done several, but I'm lazy!

They'll be a drop-in for the one-piece assemblies that we've made in the past.

There's no way to make a true one-piece and retain the 2-piece style of inletting. You have to have material that connects the hinge to the trigger guard, which will run from one end to the other on either side of the mag box.

quote:

Originally posted by 1894mk2:

quote:

Originally posted by triggerguard1:
I appreciate the patience of several customers who have already placed orders with us on this product, but we've finally got it here.

Right now we have these only available in Long-Action...(I know I know....why didn't we do the short-action first?)

Hi,

I was quoted a month delivery in May on the short action version! Can I ask how long it will be now and what the best way of contacting you is?

You can email me directly at

matt@williamsfirearms.com

Sorry for the delays, but I could spend a week's worth of writing telling you about what a PITA this whole project has been, to say nothing of the bitching, shouting, and screaming matches we've gotten into to get this thing on the market.
On some of the issues I won out, but as you can see, we're selling the long-actions first.

As an example of a problem that plagued us was the fact that when you machine a part that is angled at 2.5deg., with 2deg. of draft, and you have to generate a radius at the junction point where the part is flat and at 2.5 deg. of angle, the math gets to be a serious pain. You can calculate all you like, but you have to learn how to cheat the numbers to make it look good. Not nearly as easy as one might think, but it's behind us now and we've learned tons from doing the long-action that will prove to make the short-action much quicker.
The other major item that has been causing us delays is our forgings being over 12 weeks overdue compared to what we were told.

Well Jeff,
I've got an Oberndorf and a Brazillian to look at, but I don't have any of the G33-40's or Mexicans, so if you'd like to send me something for a pattern that I could take some quick measurements off of, you'd be getting some free bottom metal out of the deal.

Won't need the action longer than a couple of days and can ship it back out to ya, but I really don't have time to hunt down one for the purpose right now.

I do have at my disposal a real nice 30 express that we could use for the enfield pattern, so with time willing and the sales are there, I'm gonna be making a lot more.

I also designed the forging in such a manner to be able to do a drop-box for the short, long, and pre-64 model 70's.....Something else we've been asked a lot about in the last several years.

Thanks.

I just got another Model 70 this weekend and have already ordered an extractor and will be ordering new bottom metal from you as soon as the new parts are available.

Matt

If Jeffe doesn't have a G.33/40 to lend you I could lend you one. Wouldn't expect anything free for it either. Just make sure you send it back.

I also have that Mexican that is in the photo a couple of posts above if you need it. Just make sure you don't send it to Jeffe after your done with it.

Matt,
I'll be happy to send you a mexican, a m48, and an enfield!!

can't get them out till monday/tuesday (Happy Holloween!!!) due to a hunt

Also, if 22 sends you a mexican, I don't expect anything free, just that his return address is
jeff smith
228......



jeffe

Matt

It looks like you have enough 1910-36 and 24 Mauser actions offered. But if you need any of these for an extended time for measurement/fitting just let me know. I have several that you can use. I want nothing in return. I just need a source for these guards.
If you can have a finished product in 6 to 8 months I will pre pay for four units right now.
Sincerely

James

Jeffe-

Ouch!!!! You did not have to stick that London Guns bottom metal so far up my, you know what, lol. Just kidding.

Jeffe, that was a deal, and I was dumb as a post for not jumping on it then. Or, let me re-phrase that, I had not scaled the learning curve sufficiently to have appreciated such a good proposition.

Matt-

That is a beautiful unit for the Remmy 700. Very nice looking.

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Originally posted by J Bennett:
Matt

It looks like you have enough 1910-36 and 24 Mauser actions offered. But if you need any of these for an extended time for measurement/fitting just let me know. I have several that you can use. I want nothing in return. I just need a source for these guards.
If you can have a finished product in 6 to 8 months I will pre pay for four units right now.
Sincerely

James

We won't accept any prepays, but if you'd like to place advance orders, that's fine by us....

We never charge our customers cards or cash the checks until the part ships out the door.

I don't want to give any definite ideas as to when it will be completed, since I've got more crap going on right now than I can shake a stick at....I'll probably be sleeping in my shop tonight, if I sleep at all just to get some first article parts out by tomorrow to one of our new customers.

My record so far is 42 hours straight and I'm hoping I don't beat that record over the next few days.

Anyway, just wanted you all to know that the Mauser project is getting closer to the truth and we will be having those coming online hopefully soon. They're really a breeze compared to the BDL and this new one I really can't discuss. Shouldn't be more than a few months at the most, but again, I don't want to give any unrial expectations either.

No need for us to hold onto actions any longer than a couple of days. If I know they're comin, I'll schedule my time accordingly.

If 22WRF gets hit by a bus, I'll get my G33/40 send your way to play with at your leisure.

Will you continue to offer the older style "tactical' bottom metal for the Rem 700 actions?

Thanks,
LD

quote:

The object of Jeffe's affection. Question. Is the bottom metal for the Mexican the same size as that of the Yugo?

None of the Mexicans around here look that good after 70 years. Take more than a grinder.

Tried to order earlier today, got the answering machine....

I'm needing one of these in stainless!

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Originally posted by fireball168:
Tried to order earlier today, got the answering machine....

I'm needing one of these in stainless!

My office manager left for the day because she wasn't feeling well and you may have had bad timing with my secretary.....
Shoot me an email and I'll pass it over to Pamm to get your order down.

quote:

Originally posted by lawndart:
If 22WRF gets hit by a bus, I'll get my G33/40 send your way to play with at your leisure.

Will you continue to offer the older style "tactical' bottom metal for the Rem 700 actions?

Thanks,
LD

We might do that, but we're making everything in our line from here on out an inside-the-bow release system, except for the standard model 70 trigger guard of course.

We've considered making a beefier model for the short and long-action remmys that would appeal to the tactical crowd, but no decision as of yet have been made in that regard.

I will go "inside the bow" even on any sniper rifles I make. If someone has to pop a two legged varmint, no reason they can't do it with a good looking weapon.

LD

Matt

Sent you an e-mail.

James

Matt,

I have had trouble locating your bottom metal for my Model 70 .375 H&H. I did get the extractor W/O any problems.

Please advise when the new MOD.70 Magnum bottom metal is ready for us to buy.

Sorry you are being beaten so by all of the demands of your success, but it's better than not having enough to do.

Good luck and keep up the great work. The shooting public likes your products.

Cheers,

Sam
eclemmons@hotmail.com

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Good luck and keep up the great work. The shooting public likes your products.

And your prices

Geronimo