could some of you please post pics of your cz rifles where you have kept the factory stock but either refinished it and/or slimmed it down?

thanks!

sir
you don't get much weight off by reshaping the stocks .. though you can improve the looks of them.

I think keeping the original stock and finish on a CZ can be a good idea.If your going to change everything on a CZ,and bring the cost up really high,you might as well start with a better action.There is nothing wrong with the stock,IMO.It keeps the rifle looking very original,has a great shape,fits the action well and is quite strong.If I ever thought about modifying the CZ stock,I would do so only after I rebarelled the rifle.

thanks, jeffe. not really thinking in terms of weight reduction but rather in handling and appearance. i have saved a link to a project marc stokeld did for someone and would like to see any others.

JudgeG had one redone, but it may have been the "hogback" stock. Not sure.

Here are some hogback rework pictures.

Edit: M1Tanker refinished a couple of his CZs as well.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I think keeping the original stock and finish on a CZ can be a good idea.If your going to change everything on a CZ,and bring the cost up really high,you might as well start with a better action.There is nothing wrong with the stock,IMO.It keeps the rifle looking very original,has a great shape,fits the action well and is quite strong.If I ever thought about modifying the CZ stock,I would do so only after I rebarelled the rifle.

jeffe

Say thanks to your straight man...

C'mon, tiger sahib.

I'm not a professional, but here's a stock I redid for my CZ550 375 H&H (for like the third time). I added a redwood forend and grip cap, reshaped the cheek-piece, new recoil pad, and slimmed off some of the excess wood around the butt of the stock. Not worlds greatest, but it works for me and was a fun project.

Sorry for the poor pics.

nice work, sevens. please show us more pics of the complete rifle.

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Originally posted by Charles_Helm:
JudgeG had one redone, but it may have been the "hogback" stock.

I believe that you are correct. I asked Roger Ferrell to do the same refurb for me, but he said that he was not interested in this type of work any more. It must have been quite an ordeal, but the results were stunning.

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nice work, sevens. please show us more pics of the complete rifle

Sorry to resurrect the thread, but figured I'd show off the completed rifle now that it's all back together.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I think keeping the original stock and finish on a CZ can be a good idea. If your going to change everything on a CZ,and bring the cost up really high,you might as well start with a better action. There is nothing wrong with the stock,IMO.It keeps the rifle looking very original,has a great shape,fits the action well and is quite strong.If I ever thought about modifying the CZ stock,I would do so only after I rebarelled the rifle.

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I was told by a famous guild gunsmith/gunmaker that FUNCTIONALLY there is NO difference between a CZ 550 action and ANY other more expensive action.So,my second custom project will be with a the CZ action I sent him.He has built rifles with GMA and more expensive actions.

The only issue I have with the CZ action so far,is the seperate magazine box, its large capacity and soft spring and that may not be an issue unless I test it some more.I was in the process of doing so a while back and the CZ barrel went,causing me to stop.I am going to start again even if the barrel is shot out because it's the feeding and magazine I will be testing.

There is also a longer bolt travel on the larger CZ action compared to a ruger.A longer bolt travel and a larger bolt handle take longer to cycle.I am looking forward to seeing what the Vector action is like.

Well...I kind of have to jump to the defense of the CZ. The receiver is a Mauser through and through. C ring, extractor undercut, third lug. It would probably get more attention if it sold for $2500.00 (To quote Tom Burgess).

Bolt travel?...come on...you pull the bolt back until it stops and push it forward until it stops...maybe I have to think about that a bit??

Although I see nothing really wrong with the seperate magazine...it IS made of rather flimsy material.

Our very next run is CZ bottom metal with an integral box..I like the idea better too!

Finally! Will you be making one for the 458wm and the 458 lott? I got a chance to cycle a CZ at the Hoot and shoot that had work done on it by someone,in that the action and synthetic stock were in camouflage green.The action was really rough and did not compare at all to the super slick one I had done by Ralph Martini.

I have CZ's in 7x57, 270, 9.3x62, and 404 Jeffery. I wouldn't trade them for any other actions...but that could be because they are all paid for and residing in my safe! I'm thinking of building one in 308 Win.

None have factory stocks, although I did reshape one factory stock and send it to Donny Gemes (along with a blank) to use as a pattern stock.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Finally! Will you be making one for the 458wm and the 458 lott? I got a chance to cycle a CZ at the Hoot and shoot that had work done on it by someone,in that the action and synthetic stock were in camouflage green.The action was really rough and did not compare at all to the super slick one I had done by Ralph Martini.

It's kinda like trying to make one size shoe fit everybody... The CZ box at the rear is plenty wide enough....then starts to taper a little too fast for a proper stack on the 458, 404, etc. as we get towards the front.

So..We could make the box thicker at the front so it could be opened up...but then the box would not fit into the action mortise.

My gut feeling is to just go ahead with the thicker box. Let the cusomer deal with the retrofit.

I'm looking for feed-back here

Not sure I understand.It would be great to have one that fits easily in place and is cartridge specific.How about making three models-one for the 375 H&H,458 lott and 416 rigby?

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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe:
Well...I kind of have to jump to the defense of the CZ. The receiver is a Mauser through and through. C ring, extractor undercut, third lug. It would probably get more attention if it sold for $2500.00 (To quote Tom Burgess).

Bolt travel?...come on...you pull the bolt back until it stops and push it forward until it stops...maybe I have to think about that a bit??

Although I see nothing really wrong with the seperate magazine...it IS made of rather flimsy material.

Our very next run is CZ bottom metal with an integral box..I like the idea better too!

yes, but atrocious bolt handle, trigger, and safety!

what's bad about the safety once tuned?

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Duane Wiebe: It would probably get more attention if it sold for $2500.00 (To quote Tom Burgess).

Yep. They clean up just fine and leave nothing to be desired, except possibly a bolt guide. But they don't bind anyway.

I think so G. Dennis Olson had to make some repairs that cropped up and for the moment he fixed the mounts but I do want to have the bridges changed.

Whats wrong with the bolt handle ? or the safety or trigger ? only trouble i ever had was with the feeding ,you dont need a 3 position saftey ,i like the set trigger and bolt never bothered me at all

I like the bolt handle.

The trigger is very nice when adjusted correctly, and I use the set feature all the time at the range. I wish all my rifles has a set trigger now.

All my CZs have a three position factory safety, and when polished they are slick and quiet.

KB

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Originally posted by tankhunter:
Whats wrong with the bolt handle ? or the safety or trigger ? only trouble i ever had was with the feeding ,you dont need a 3 position saftey ,i like the set trigger and bolt never bothered me at all

Bolt handle is too small and too close to the stock when closed to suit me. I can see difficulty in working the bolt when cold, wearing gloves, or under stress.

I am having 2 CZs restocked, actions slicked up, and new bolt handles, triggers, safeties, and sights added and a barrel band on the 375. This should make good rifles into very nice rifles when finished.

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Originally posted by G.Hansen:
jsl3170, Thanks for sharing photos of your CZ project. Q. Are you still considering having the bridges machined to accommodate standard Talley rings? Duane Wiebes' interest in making a one-piece bottom metal for the CZ550M certainly has my attention. If it will allow 4 rounds down in a .416 Rigby, I'm definitely on board. Thanks again.

It looks like we are going to offer two floorplate versions...one a little thicker to accomodate the 416 with four down

will it be the coffin style or flush to the bottom of the stock duane?

Well, the floorplate always extends a little below the bottom stock line...the thicker version will extend about .075 further...visually, the edges will be thin so it won't look extra thick.

Hopefully I'll have photos "soon"

A true coffin plate might be also be a possibility.

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Originally posted by Oday450:

Bolt handle is too small and too close to the stock when closed to suit me. I can see difficulty in working the bolt when cold, wearing gloves, or under stress.

The first picture is for comparison. It's a custom bolt handle on a Mauser.

The last picture is with the handle open on the CZ 550 to show the clearance of the scope. It looks to me like there would be a problem if the handle was curved up higher - in hand clearance. Also the hand clearance looks fine to me with the bolt in the closed position. You be the judge.

I've included a couple of pictures of the prized BRNO, which everyone raves about. The bolt handles look very close to the same to me as far as clearance and function.

The bolt knob on the CZ is very close to the diameter of the FN knob, which I don't read this chronic complaint about it being too small.

KB

Almost every article on improving the CZ550 includes replacing or filling and bending the bolt handle. Do a search on this forum for examples or read Michael Scherz or Mark Skofeld's articles - all change the bolt handle.

I happen to like a little larger ball and did not like the close tolerance. Additionally, the CZ hole in the ball is in my opinion useless and ugly. But, like women, we don't all have te same taste or look for the same things.

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Originally posted by Oday450:
I happen to like a little larger ball and did not like the close tolerance. Additionally, the CZ hole in the ball is in my opinion useless and ugly. But, like women, we don't all have te same taste or look for the same things.

Sometimes I forget that there are two CZ 550s, which are basically two very different rifles, and bolt handles. It's almost two different discussions.

It seems to me the thing about the larger knob ball, and the close tolerance, is there are two paremeters to deal with - namely the clearance when the bolt is closed and the clearance when it's open. It has to be balanced if a scope is used or it will be tight on hand clearance in one place or the other. So, with a bigger knob, to get more tolerance (clearance) will require a longer stem. The length of the stem is where the clearance will come from, not the bend (or not) of the stem.

I like a larger knob too, and I also don't like the hole in the end of the knob on the safari. The hole is relatively easy to fix. But I'm not willing to replace the whole handle for a larger knob. It ain't worth it to me, when the factory knob is just fine. If it's about taste, that's one thing. If it's about what works and is practical - the CZ factory handle works great, and with a few minimal changes, it works better, such as straightening, and filling the hole in the knob (on the safari). Replacing the whole handle is all about taste... (period)

Obviously, the handle in my pictures has been straightened, which did the trick for me, and is relatively cheap compared to replacment.

Besides, and after all, the CZ 550 medium action has a handle that is threaded, and the knob comes off. It probably wouldn't bee too much trouble, if a guy really wanted to turn and thread a replacment knob in whatever shape and diameter he wanted - pear shape, tactical, acorn, spoon, duckbill, pussy or whatever makes him happy.

KB

Mr. Wiebe, the metal you're talking about doing for the .416 Rigby: will it fit the factory inlet without modification?