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New High Tech Finish--Face OFF!
08 May 2006, 06:04
333_OKHNew High Tech Finish--Face OFF!
I have been looking overa ll of these new finishes and running down why they each say one is better than the other, but in reallity how much real life difference is there. I handled a 1911 in Rogaurd with an NP3 frame. I liked it, but what are the rest like.
Take a read of the links below and tell me what your favorite finish is and why. This is a rifle discussion.
Below are a list of finished, but feel free to add more. Who from these companies would you use?
Wilson Armor Tuff
Robar's Rogaurd/NP3
NIC Industries-Cerakote
Casidiam-Carbon Coating
Bearcoat-Industrial Teflon
Armoloy of Texas
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Alberta CanuckI only have guns with two of the finishes you mention: Rogard, and Armolloy (sp?)
Both have worn very well (or not worn much, however you want to say it).
The Rogard gun (barreled action) actually fell off the bumper of a car at 55 MPH onto the pavement and was then run over multiple times by other cars. Still, only where there was direct, sliding, contact with the gritty chip seal of the pavement, was any finish missing.
The other rifle (action only, actually) has seen twelve+ years of use, some years more than 100 days per year at the range, and still looks just great. I'd feel confident using either again.
My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still.
09 May 2006, 03:04
Rick 0311I had a S&W model 29 years and years ago that I had done in Armaloy when they first started doing firearms. It was great, but the satin silver finish was all that was available, don’t know if they offer other choices now.
I have three rifles done in black matt Rogard with the bolts and internals done in matt silver NP3 and I love it.
I also have a 1911 Springfield .45 ACP with Wilson’s Black/grey finish and it’s REALLY rugged and very attractive. The slide is matt black and the frame is a real dark charcoal grey.
I would highly recommend either Rogard or Wilsons for a finish on a working rifle or handgun.
The coatings that you name are all trade names . It would be better if you identify chemically the coatings.
09 May 2006, 05:00
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by mete:
The coatings that you name are all trade names . It would be better if you identify chemically the coatings.
Most of these finishes have proprietary ingredients and or processes of application and the companies are not going to tell you much.
09 May 2006, 07:19
new_guywhat about the "ceramic" coating used by empire rifles... anyone know anything about it or have any practical experience with it?
09 May 2006, 10:34
333_OKHquote:
what about the "ceramic" coating used by empire rifles
Cerakote....then e-mailed to me.
09 May 2006, 18:49
Don Slaterquote:
Originally posted by 333_OKH:
I have been looking overa ll of these new finishes and running down why they each say one is better than the other, but in reallity how much real life difference is there. I handled a 1911 in Rogaurd with an NP3 frame. I liked it, but what are the rest like.
Take a read of the links below and tell me what your favorite finish is and why. This is a rifle discussion.
Below are a list of finished, but feel free to add more. Who from these companies would you use?
Wilson Armor Tuff
Robar's Rogaurd/NP3
NIC Industries-Cerakote
Casidiam-Carbon Coating
Bearcoat-Industrial Teflon
Armoloy of Texas
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http://www.fit4duty.us/09 May 2006, 18:50
Don Slaterquote:
Originally posted by 333_OKH:
quote:
what about the "ceramic" coating used by empire rifles
Cerakote....then e-mailed to me.
http://www.fit4duty.us/10 May 2006, 02:18
BlueprintedI have few done by Falcon coat. He used the cericoat. It is nice stuff, and very tough. I have tow more barreld actions to go in the next few weeks.
10 May 2006, 07:30
TreeFarmerYou can ad KG Industries Gun-Kote to your list. I have 5 rifles coated with their product and it has held up extremely well in heavy usage. From what I have read, it seems that proper surface preparation prior to application is the key to success with any of these products.
TreeFarmer
NRA Life Member
Moderation in the pursuit of decadence is no virture.
10 May 2006, 08:00
KY NimrodI've used Walt Birdsong's Black T on two guns and have another in the works with him. First gun I had done in Black T was 2 years ago and was my badly worn Gunsite Service Pistol worked over by Ted Yost in 1992. Its seen almost daily handing and about 5,000 rounds and looks new. Its my car gun and almost never gets wiped down.
I also have had a rifle done in Roguard. Not much opportunity to use it yet but it looks good!
10 May 2006, 18:11
Don Slaterquote:
Originally posted by TreeFarmer:
You can ad KG Industries Gun-Kote to your list. I have 5 rifles coated with their product and it has held up extremely well in heavy usage. From what I have read, it seems that proper surface preparation prior to application is the key to success with any of these products.
I've had two rifles that see heavy wet use done by Mac, and both are excellent. Gunkote is tough stuff! Some say cerekote is better??
http://www.shootiniron.com/quote:
Originally posted by Don Slater:
quote:
Originally posted by TreeFarmer:
You can ad KG Industries Gun-Kote to your list. I have 5 rifles coated with their product and it has held up extremely well in heavy usage. From what I have read, it seems that proper surface preparation prior to application is the key to success with any of these products.
I've had two rifles that see heavy wet use done by Mac, and both are excellent. Gunkote is tough stuff! Some say cerekote is better??
http://www.shootiniron.com/
I would like to give a plug for Mac's Restorations too. He has application of KG Gunkote [with metal preparation, parkerizing and silica blasting] down to a science. The result is perfect application and a very durable finish.
Jordan
