25 February 2021, 04:41
Uncle GrinchBest Action For a 45/70 - Not Siamese
If I want to have a bolt action 45/70 built that holds two rounds in magazine, what action would be the best fit? I know the Siamese would be the best choice, but they are scarce as hen’s teeth.
Can a M98 be modified to feed this round without a lot of work or maybe a Mosin or a SMLE?
25 February 2021, 05:34
RandyBIf it helps I have a very nice Siamese action that needs a home.
25 February 2021, 05:44
yumastepsideThere was a mob building 45-70's on Lee Enfields a while back and I think you can still buy the mags.
Roger
25 February 2021, 05:47
theback40Could you fit one into a P14?
DPCD would be the one to ask, he does some neat stuff.
25 February 2021, 05:49
sliversUncle Grinch, if I wanted to build a 45/70 I'd be sending a PM to RandyB to see how mush he wants for that Siamese Mauser action.
25 February 2021, 06:49
dpcdBuilt many;
1. They of course work well on the Siamese and after all, it's a Mauser. But FAR superior to those junk German ones; they were made in Japan.
2. Enfields; done a few on those, but, while Navy Arms opened up the receiver to accommodate the rim, I lathe turned rims down so they will fit through the action; and the brass still works in all other 45-70s. No need to weaken the receiver.
3. Mosins; more work, but very strong.
4. P14? bolt face is a challenge; see #2 above.
5. Think about a 450 Marlin or 458 American. Then you can use any action you want. I've done two of those.
6. Standard 98; Just no.
25 February 2021, 07:10
Uncle GrinchTom,
Great info to have before starting a build. I had a Siamese that E R Shaw built back in the 70’s. It wasn’t MOA accurate, but with peep sights and cast bullets I killed quite a few deer and some hogs with it. I sold it three years ago to a fellow gun club member who tempted me too many times with cash.
Still have my Marlin CB, but I miss my Mauser.
25 February 2021, 10:28
RollandI have built three over the years out of sporterized SMLE actions and Boyd stocks. If you go that route I can give you a pattern for modifying the magazine that works slick
25 February 2021, 16:34
p dog shooterJust easier to put a 450 marlin case into na bolt gun.
25 February 2021, 17:36
jeffeossomy order of preference
siamese
smle
p14
if i where to do a mauser, i'd do a mexican mauser, and more than likely do it in 450 marlin, but could be done in 45/70
25 February 2021, 18:43
LongDistanceOperatorquote:
Originally posted by RandyB:
If it helps I have a very nice Siamese action that needs a home.
What do you want for it?
25 February 2021, 20:39
RandyBEmailed pics to Uncle Grinch, he has the first shot at it.
26 February 2021, 06:01
Uncle Grinchquote:
Originally posted by RandyB:
Emailed pics to Uncle Grinch, he has the first shot at it.
I’ll take it. Email sent.