it seems to me that somewhere I read that when a mauser if fully inletted the top metal should not touch the bottom metal, or that there should be some sort of a gap between the two.
And yet I look at many mausers, both military and commercial, where the inletting does touch each other.

Which is correct, and why?

The ones that I do don't have the magazine box touching the action bottom; close, but not touching. There is the possibility of putting "torque" on the action if they touch. The same can be said for the model 70 and the Remingtons.

Jim’s right for the one piece styles like Mausers and 03’s...but the Remington’s need to have the slight space on the bottom at the guard not at the receiver. I have a couple 700’s that I had the mag boxes tack welded to the receiver but they don’t touch the guard.

Plus, if they are touching,,, The stocks is probably loose as slice of ham between 2 pieces of bread with mayo

so then its an accuracy thing and there is no safety concerns if they do touch?

"5 penny postcard" thickness...

they should NOT touch, as this means you are bolting the betal to metal, not to stock

jeffe

If they did touch, there is a chance the action would move around in the stock.

There could be some saftey issues if the action moved enough to crack the stock.

I leave about a 1/16" to 1/8" depending on the stock

I concur with what gsp just said.

I have 3 husky highpower rifles and all were inleted to deep. All the stocks are split.

I leave .040- .080 clearence

Well, I've learned something new today.

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Originally posted by Rick 0311:
Jim’s right for the one piece styles like Mausers and 03’s...but the Remington’s need to have the slight space on the bottom at the guard not at the receiver. I have a couple 700’s that I had the mag boxes tack welded to the receiver but they don’t touch the guard.

Out of curiosity, if the Rem box is clear of the bottom, it would also be clear from the action. Unless you tig welded the box to the reciever. Now, why in the hell would that be necessary?

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Originally posted by GSP7:
Plus, if they are touching,,, The stocks is probably loose as slice of ham between 2 pieces of bread with mayo

Not necessarily. Many are glass bedded.

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Originally posted by 22WRF:

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Originally posted by GSP7:
Plus, if they are touching,,, The stocks is probably loose as slice of ham between 2 pieces of bread with mayo

Not necessarily. Many are glass bedded.

If its glass bedded properly the bottom metal shouldnt be touching in the first place.

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Originally posted by Jim Kobe:

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Originally posted by Rick 0311:
Jim’s right for the one piece styles like Mausers and 03’s...but the Remington’s need to have the slight space on the bottom at the guard not at the receiver. I have a couple 700’s that I had the mag boxes tack welded to the receiver but they don’t touch the guard.

Out of curiosity, if the Rem box is clear of the bottom, it would also be clear from the action. Unless you tig welded the box to the reciever. Now, why in the hell would that be necessary?

Jim,

I didn’t say it was necessary, I just said that I had a couple of 700’s that have the mag box tacked to the receiver. As I’m sure you know, the ADL’s screw the box to the receiver, and some of the custom makers of tactical rifles (as well as the Marine Corps) tack the boxes to the receiver. Even if you don’t screw or tack it, it is supposed to have its contact at the receiver
not at the floor plate area (BDL) or stock (ADL).

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Originally posted by GSP7:

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Originally posted by 22WRF:

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Originally posted by GSP7:
Plus, if they are touching,,, The stocks is probably loose as slice of ham between 2 pieces of bread with mayo

Not necessarily. Many are glass bedded.

If its glass bedded properly the bottom metal shouldnt be touching in the first place.

Well, I wonder how that could be because a lot of factory rifles have some glass bedding in them and their metal touches. Seems to me that as long as the recoil lug is properly bedded with good contact in its abutment, then it really shouldn't matter if the metal touches as long as there is no undue pressure being placed on any one part of the receiver.

I think what some are trying to point out is that it is not a good idea to have the receiver and bottom metal in direct contact except by the action screws and/or their pillars at front and rear. Having the mag box in contact with both the receiver and the bottom metal can place unwanted pressure in that area when things get screwed down.

If you have a one piece unit like Mausers and 03’s the slight gap is at the top. On the separate box styles the gap is at the bottom.

22wrf just likes to argue,,, I like mayo on my ham sandwich.

GSP7

I don't like to argue. I just like to get things straight from people who really know what they are talking about.

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Originally posted by 22WRF:
GSP7

I don't like to argue. I just like to get things straight from people who really know what they are talking about.

Well in that case disregard everything I said!

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Originally posted by 22WRF:
GSP7

I don't like to argue. I just like to get things straight from people who really know what they are talking about.

I can assure you that Jim Kobe knows of what he speak!!!

I've bedded a lot of them but still hired Jim to do my last one as he's very good at it...much better than I am.

That said here's the test.....

do the rounds feed correctly?????

does the tightening of the guard screws snug the action into the bedding or does it just secure the bottom metal to the receiver?

If it does the latter it's not done right!!!

If there is so much gap between the bottom metal and receiver that the rounds don't feed it's done wrong again.

Does the trigger fail to fit the trigger guard well.....this too means the bottom metal is not fitting corectly.
1/32" to 1/16" gap does it fine!!!