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All, I need to remove the front sight on my Ruger RSM so that I can measure it and replace it with a NECG white beaded sight. (Shooting about three inches low at 50 yards compared to the scope) My understanding is that to remove it all one has to do is depress the 'button' in front of the sight and drift it out (using a piece of wood and/or a plastics mallet). The problem is that the button is in front of the sight and I seem to have to depress it quite a bit. The only way I was able to get it depressed was with the 'short' end of an allen wrench. This puts the wrench (and my fingers) squarely in front of the sight, right where I think I need to place the drift. I tried last night for a half an hour to get it out, to no avail. Can anyone help this mechanically incompetent boob with getting this thing off? Thanks!! -Steve --------  www.zonedar.com If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning DRSS C&H 475 NE -------- | ||
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Your not alone Steve I had the same problem. finaly took it to a gunsmith who got it out without any damage. | |||
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Thanks Kino. I know I'm still a mechanically incompetent boob, but now I know that we might be able to start a club  . I was told several times last night by Lisa that I should take it to someone "who won't wreck it". If someone here doesn't have a suggestion, I'll take Lisa and your advice. Either that or buy your 416... Thanks!! -Steve -------- www.zonedar.com If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning DRSS C&H 475 NE -------- | |||
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Steve, get the tiniest allen wrench you can find.. depress fully, and drift back until the allen sticks.. pull the allen and drift jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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PM sent (or about to be). Red | |||
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Red, Thanks and replied too. -Steve -------- www.zonedar.com If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning DRSS C&H 475 NE -------- | |||
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Just a bit of care and following Jeffe's instruction and you will get it. I am something of a goof with tools like hammers and found that by wrapping my barrel with tape first I didn't ever ding, scratch or abuse the barrel when removing the sights on my rifles. My smith uses a clamp which pushes the dovetail out rather than drifting. Good luck Frank | |||
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Steve, I am generally not allowed to pick up hand tools. When i attemt to use sharp objects my som goes staright for the band aids... I genreally limit all my mechanicalskills to demolition...have three pound sledge, saws all, and crow bar...will travel... Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Okay Mike and Frank, you're now a charter members of the Mu-Eta-Beta (MIB) fraternity.  -Steve -------- www.zonedar.com If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning DRSS C&H 475 NE -------- | |||
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I couldn't get mine out either and took it to My riflesmith. So HE destroyed it when removing it  He claimed someone at Ruger must have not bothered to "fit it" and just drove it in with a hammer, or the like. I found when installing "replacement" NECG front sight beads I have to do a little cautious file work to get them just snug enough, but still loose enough to be able to remove them later. Roi DRSS member Constant change is here to stay. | |||
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Steve did you get it out? In one piece- no blood?  | |||
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Kino, Not yet. But I haven't tried again. I need to stop by the hardware store to see if I can find a better 'drift'. I'm not getting good purchase on the sight with the dowel that I'm using. I've been busy the past couple of evenings haven't been able to get to the store. Will try again this weekend. -Steve -------- www.zonedar.com If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning DRSS C&H 475 NE -------- | |||
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Well.., Stopped by the hardware store on the way home from work. I got a nice 1/2 oak dowel and a 16 oz rubber BFM. I beat on things using Jeffe's technique. No happiness. I'll try and get my wife to help hold things again tonight and try again. If this doesn't work I'll probably have to take a trip to the gunsmith tomorrow. -Steve -------- www.zonedar.com If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning DRSS C&H 475 NE -------- | |||
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I went on and destroyed mine. The one I got was so tight I don't think it would have ever come out without damage. I haven't checked the price, but that kind of part is generally pretty cheap from Ruger so its no big deal. I've done this on other Rugers without much trouble. I will say that if you make it a two man job, its a lot easier. My problem was always holding the pin depressed while knocking out the sight. Two hands is really not adequate. | |||
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Ahhh, but to have a third arm. Mine was so tight that I thought I might slip and hit the barrel or ramp. Not sure how the gunsmith got it out but it was un-damaged. | |||
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Steve I have replaced the front sight on two Ruger RSM rifles. In each case the sight was over size and driven in extremely tight. I clamped the barrel in a leather padded vise, had an assitant hold the plunger down while I tapped on the sight with a soft copper drift. Most sights are made of very soft steel and a brass drift will actually dent the steel. Always use soft copper. The drift I use most of the time is about 5 inhes long, 1.5 inches wide and .250 inch thick. It can be reshaped to fit the job easily with a course file. If any copper is left on the part just dip a Q tip in bore solvent and rub it right off. Like 510Wells mentioned you will have to take some Dykem Blue and small file and spot fit the replacement sight in so it can be removed by your finger but not so loose that it will move around in the base. By the way, I have encountered the same problems with Ruger No. 1-S rifle sights as well. Craftsman | |||
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