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I've been following the 400 Whelen Headspace thread under Bigbore. I just about decided to build another version of my own wildcat 416PDK but this time in 411. Nice bigbore needs a set of open sights as well as a scope. However my old eyes have gotten to the point that express sights are just a touch better than nothing.

I know NEC makes a peep that mounts on a weaver base. But that is an extra piece for me to lose. N Garret's 400 Whelen shown on that tread has a peep mounted on the cocking piece. I've seen other rifles with that type of sight as well. Any info or leads as well as other sight options would be appreciated.


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Dave Talley makes a pop up peep in his rear base.


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This rifle will be on a MKX action. I thought Tally only made the popup for the Winchester. I had see his and liked what I saw. Do you know if it works on the Mauser base? I had checked his site and couldn't tell.

Emailed the site to see what they say.


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Look at the Rigby cocking piece peep that is being produced by Rusty Marlin on this forum. The first batch should be about ready and he would produce in groups of 4 as he got orders. I'm going to put one on one of my 375's. They appear to be quality work.


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Look at the Rigby cocking piece peep that is being produced by Rusty Marlin on this forum

Thanks that was one of the options I wanted to check on.


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Any info or leads as well as other sight options would be appreciated.


What about a good old Lyman 48M? I don't know if all MkX actions are drilled for peep sight mounting, but the Charles Daly Zastava actions I recently bought are.


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If you decide to use an old Lyman, use the 48 or 57 FN, not the M. The M will work but you will have a gap between the top of the bridge and the block. Mark Xs are drilled on the side, same as the FN, same contour and spacing.


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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't know.

Perhaps you could also answer this for me. My actions are the left handed ones and I need a peep for mounting on the bolt side, ie. left side of the action. I was considering trying to mount a 48WJS. Any idea whether that would work?

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I went through these gyrations a while back and found these to be a great solution. Roger Biesen made them for me and they are custom so they could be made for a lefty without issues. They have the Redfield flip up peep on the rear of the rear base and a single lever to remove the scope. There is a picture at the bottom of the page linked here:

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Several good leads and options. Thanks. I have a Williams rear on a 358Norma. Allows me a 100-150yd range. I haven't found a clean way to mount a scope and clear the sight without having the scope WAY up in the air.

Stu I can't say about the Lyman but looking at my Williams this morning sure looks like it could be mounted on the left side. You would need to take the top apart and turn it around but looks to me like it would work.


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Dave Talley makes a pop up peep in his rear base.

Well I received a reply from the dealer listed on the Talley site. Concerned me just a little when I was asked if the MKX was a larger ring or small. When I replied it was a large ring commercial action the follow up was what is the spacing. So after supplying the spacing I was told they could do it takes about 10 days.

Major surprise that anything was answered on Sunday morning.


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Jim Brockman makes the pop up peep on Talley bases. I didn't know Dave was making a pop up peep. If he is then it's a pretty recent thing.

He has always made a neat slide on peep that slips on his rear scope base and has windage and elevation is had by filing a .500 NECG gold faced partridge sight down to zero.


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Ray the gentleman I was emailing with was named Marshall Talbott at talleyscoperings.com

Thanks for the mention of Brockman. That is the sight I remember seeing for only the Win 70. The sight on the Talley page is $69 so it sounds more like a replacement like the NEC. I think I need further discussions with Mr Talbott to insure we are on the same page.


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The easiest IMHO is to get the XS ghost ring sight which is integral to a weaver base.

Ringe heights of course vary but I was able to mount a leupy 2.5 to 8 in medium rings.

Of course my application is not on and off with a scope. it is simply as back up sights if the scope is damaged.



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Well after getting some followup from Talley this is the sight they have available. It is adjustable for windage only and must be placed on the base after the scope is removed.


I was hoping it was this Brockman style.


Now checking with Ghost Sights to see what their option are for the MKX.


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Was prowling thru some old mounts and bases and found an old Redfield Jr base marked 70jr so I suppose its for a Model 70. It's a bridge type base with 1 rear screw. What's unusual about it is it has a fold down peep on the rear of the base. The peep is attached to rear of base with 2 screws and has elevation adjustment also. The leaf folds to the rear, is spring loaded and clears any scope. Very good backup sight. Have no idea where I got it but do remember when they were in production. I never used Redfield I always used Buehler.


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