proprietary

17 February 2010, 07:07

D Humbarger

proprietary

Pulled from another thread & I would like to know...

quote:
Aren't the JDJs Proprietary?

Just how long does a cartridge remain "Proprietary"? Indefinately?

Doug Humbarger
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Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73.
Yankee Station

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17 February 2010, 08:24

craigster

I found this.

Proprietary Rights are defined as:

Property rights of the owners of proprietary information which may be protected by law. In contracting, this term refers to the data belonging to the contractor, and may include financial information, intellectual property (concepts, designs, techniques), technical documentation, etc.

I take it from this that the JDJs will remain proprietary as long as JDJ wants them to.

Maybe 'Ol Blue/Kevin/22WRF can give us an attorney's opinion.

17 February 2010, 08:32

ramrod340

I see it kind of like Rocky Gibbs. He never gave the exact dimensions of his cartridges to others. Felt no one else could do it right. Sure many copied them. I think there were several slight variation out there. While Rocky was alive only he chambered for the true Gibbs. Not to say others didn't build rifles and call it a Gibbs. Bet you could have a reamer cut as close to a JDJ as you could measure call it something else and have no problem.

17 February 2010, 16:53

J.D.Steele

Jerry Gebby did the same thing with the 22 Varminter, he patented or copyrighted the name and the case dimensions. How far did he get with this silliness?

We now know his exact-same cartridge as the 22-250 Remington.

Just have a reamer sized to the JDJ dimensions (with ANY minor change, or not), call it something else, and tell that JDJones idiot to go pound sand. JMOFWIW.
Regards, Joe

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17 February 2010, 19:31

Boss Hoss

Do we want to bring up the WSM debacle?????

17 February 2010, 19:50

jeffeosso

JD Jones has the copyright on the name and the drawings ... if you say you want a 123 JDJ, then you ARE using his idea and concept .. and its, in my opinion, appropriate to acknowledge that.
No more than chevy can make a car and call it the mustang --

opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com

17 February 2010, 23:19

SmallCal

Sounds like the Whisper series as well. You can't built a rifle and call it a 300 Whisper but you can build the same rifle, same chamber and call it a 300/221 with no problems.

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18 February 2010, 00:29

D Humbarger

375JDJ...hmm...375x444 done.

Doug Humbarger
NRA Life member
Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73.
Yankee Station

Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo.

18 February 2010, 00:31

ramrod340

quote:
375JDJ...hmm...375x444 done.

20 February 2010, 04:03

Alberta Canuck

Proprietary rights may depend on where and when claimed. If claimed in the forms of copyights or patents (not the same things), they are derived from the laws of the nations in which claimed, and may be deemed bonafide within different situational limitations, and for different periods of time.

You can look up a lot of opinions here (amongst many other places):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain

The site linked to is not a provider of legal advice. For that, one needs to consult with an attorney.