I've read about jeffeosso's .458 Win Mag on a Mexican Mauser action - how about a Taylor wildcat on one?

What will I give up in OAL of the cartridge?

Will I give up bullet choices?

How about mag capacity?

Anything else?

Howdy,
you'll be limited to 3.15" oal... or a SHORT 416 taylor...

BUT

the 416 aggard (376 steyr necked to 416) would be a cool choice.. i'll do one in a couple months

jeffe

Jeffe,

What kind of performance do you expect from the .416-376?

Sounds interesting...

Rick

Rick,
if it makes 2150 with a 400 gr, it makes the reknown 450/400... and it will do that and a hair better...

not even thinking about jacking the pressure up.. just run it sweet and even.. and drive through anything. I've been threatening another 416 (one of my fav bores) and I don't see why not this AND a 500/416... run them both at 2150, match the slayer of all things the 450/400 and have it in a tiny bolt gun and/or a double in the case ofthe 500/416

jeffe

My question comes up because an Adams & Bennett barrel with dies and brass is being offered in the classified and it occurred to me that, if a .458 could be built on one of these actions, why not a Taylor? The .416/376 Steyr sounds very interesting, though.

How many rounds of .458 do you get in the magazine?

an AB barrel is a good place to start .. except it's for a large ring, and the mexican is a small ring..

all is not lost...
IIRC, you can turn down large ring to fit a small ring mauser,,,, if not, a smith can recut the barrel to work..

I can put 4 steyrs in a mexican mauser, and 3 win mags... from more or less factory mags..

remember, my 458 is designed for 3.15 winnies... which means 405's on the short cannelure.

jeffe

Jeffe, you make a good point about the machine work that would be required for that barrel.

I’m really not ready to build on this action anyway, mainly because I can’t decide on a chambering. I’ve followed the discussions on this forum regarding the possibilities for the Mexican Mauser action and, it seems, the more I read, the further from a decision I get!

I’ve “decided†on a chambering about five times. At one point, it was going to be 7-08. Then, .358 Win, 6.5x55, .257 Rob, .22-250, and 6mm Rem in that order. At that point, I dug up your conversation a couple of years back about the .376 Steyr! Now, a good friend of mine suggested .284 Win. I guess I should start by deciding which side of .308 I want to be on and then narrow it down from there.

You know, a big bore (i.e. .376 Steyr) would be cool with a short barrel and a full-length stock….

Personally, I would not use a magnum case on any small ring action...I would stipulate for a largh ring mod 98...

Ray,
I wonder why that is, unless you are including small ring 98s and the REST of the small rings (91,93,95,96 etc) together?

The mauser 98 small ring /small barrel thread actually has just about exactly (if not more) metal thickness around the front ring of the barrel. the small ring shank is nominally .980, vs the large ring 1.1, while the outside is a mere .1 difference and other than bolt LENGTH between the lugs, the bolt is the same dimensions.

If this is a question about pressure... "magnum" and "308" "243" "358" "376" are all loaded to nearly the same pressure. And as well all agree than a 98 can hold a 308, or a 458 lott, then what we are talking about is bolt thrust. and bolt thrust .. well, they use the same bolt design, with the nod for stiffness going to the small ring, as it's shorter between the lugs.

And we all agree than a 1909 and a lott are a great combination, right?

Oh well.. everyone just send me all your small ring 98!!!

jeffe