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----- Original Message -----
From: taylorce1@yahoo
To: products@savage-barrels.com
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:13 AM
Subject: Barrel Problems


Jon,

I recently got a .243 Win 1:7 twist small shank Savage pre-fit from you. Well my action I was going to build this rifle on finally came in this week. Yesterday I went to install the barrel and I couldn't get the barrel nut nor the receiver to thread on. The threads just don't seem to match up. Do you want me to send the barrel back to you or should I take it to a gunsmith to figure out what the problem is exactly first? I don't have any way of measuring the thread pitch at home to see if that is the problem.

Thanks,

Chad

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Chad,

Let me talk with McGowen tomorrow. I am sure that they will pay to have it picked up and then make the assessment on what might be wrong.

Thanks,

Jon

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Chad,

Below is the response from McGowen on your thread issue. If you don't feel comfortable doing this procedure, maybe your gunsmith can help.

Let me know if this is satisfactory.

Thanks,

Jon



----- Original Message -----
From: Dan J Wynne
To: Products@Savage-Barrels.com
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: Barrel Problems


Here is what I tell them when I get these problems. McGowen cuts their threads to the high side of the thread tolerance. The reason that they do this is because we have to make barrels not only for new actions, but older ones also. This ensures that the threads are not sloppy. The easiest fix is to take some emory cloth and wrap around the threads and take the high side of the threads off. Just wrap the sandpaper around the threads and roll the barrel back and forth with even pressure. This will take the threads down at the peaks. Do this for a few minutes, try it on the receiver and then if it doesn't fit do it again until they fit.

Dan

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Originally posted by Westpac:
That is why I won't thread anything unless the item I am threading it for is my shop. Too easy to screw up the fit. Usually, the depth of cut is set based on the major diameter. If the major is off, there is a good chance so is the minor. Of course continuing along the lines of McGowens instructions, you could go to Home Depot and buy a 3 cornered file.

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you could go to Home Depot and buy a 3 cornered file.

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Originally posted by J_Zola:

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you could go to Home Depot and buy a 3 cornered file.

Hack move. People in the know use a thread file.

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Originally posted by Westpac:

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Originally posted by J_Zola:

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you could go to Home Depot and buy a 3 cornered file.

Hack move. People in the know use a thread file.

No, people in the know use a lathe!

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No, people in the know use a lathe!

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Originally posted by J_Zola:

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No, people in the know use a lathe!

I know Westpac. Sounds like McGowens does not.

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I am not a gunsmith but sold threading tools and gauges for years so I have some knowledge of threads. There are a number of factors that can cause interference of threaded parts. Major diameter, minor diameter, pitch and pitch diameter or any combination may cause parts not to fit. Unless you know which is causing the problem, don't make any alterations. If you have the original barrel and can measure pitch and major diameter and compare those measurements to your new barrel, that is a start. If you don't have the ability to measure those, consult someone who understands threads and finds out what is causing the interference.

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Rich gave me hell about using the Savage action

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Rich gave me hell about using the Savage action

does that mean you get a discount? LOL