can anyone tell me where i can get a synthetic stock for my Ruger M77 Mk2 458 LOTT??????? I never thought it would be so difficult to get one when my original stock cracked after about thirty rounds!I dont want another wooden one as it will crack that too!

I have a RSM in 416 Rigby and thought a synthetic stock would be nice to have as well. I've seen several posts like this over the years here on AR and the answer has always been the same - nobody makes such a stock. If you find one, please let me know.

In the meantime, you should contact Ruger about replacing your wood stock. It may not be what you want, but it's better than nothing.

It will work fine if you reinforce it properly with crossbolts and glass-bedding.
Regards, Joe

oh how i wish ruger would help me!! They say because i live in big bad Zimbabwe and they do not ship weapons here due to our leader being a bit "naughty" on occasion they will not help me!!

McMillan?

I guess they think you will club someone with the stock.
That is just sad on their part not to get you one.

No problem for a good Smith to make one from a blank. Mine does it all of the time (CNC Mill) but he will not work on Rugers.

To get a round Ruger's non-helpfullnedd,

1. have some one from the US, just bring it as luggage

2. Have it shippedd to SA, then pick it up.

Then have it glass beded, cross bolted, and a bolt placed in the stock wrist. Then you are set.

I would think that no one would consider a stock, as a firearm, but I could be wrong.

Keith

should be able to order and have shipped-- check first ...

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Originally posted by zimguide:
can anyone tell me where i can get a synthetic stock for my Ruger M77 Mk2 458 LOTT??????? I never thought it would be so difficult to get one when my original stock cracked after about thirty rounds!I dont want another wooden one as it will crack that too!

Where is it cracked?

If it is in the wrist, you can either stretch wet rawhide around it, lace it in place, and let it dry, or you can go more modern and wrap fibreglass cloth around it and saturate that with epoxy and let it set. Neither will look pretty, but either will work fine until you can obtain (or have made) a replacement. And both may provide a better grip than either wood or many commercial fibreglass stocks.

If the crack is a vertical (longitudenal) one inside the inletting, then simply spread the crack or cut away some of the wood it is in, and fill the void with epoxy and a thru-bolt. Will be strong like Sampson.

I am sure there are a lot of backyard "mechanics" in Afrika who can make it into a well working piece until you can find what you want. Don't despair.

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:

I am sure there a lot of backyard "mechanics" in Afrika who can make it into a well working piece until you can find what you want. Don't despair.

You better believe it!

Africa is home to some of the most impressive backyard gunsmithing.

I have seen some unbelieveable things done to keep a rifle working. What is so amazing is that the "bubble gum and bailing wire" repairs not only work, but often keep the problem from repeating.

Yes, there is much backyard gunsmithing in Africa.

Yet I have seen a whole lot of stocks there with cracks behind the tang.

As for Ruger's response, I'm afraid they're 100% correct. Under applicable federal law, since you live in Zimbabwe, they cannot legally ship you a replacement stock.

Abuse like this, by people like you in foreign countries, is probably why Ruger dropped them in the first place!

Rich

PM me if you want, I may have a bypass system in place for you.

Sounds like you need someone to come over and hunt with the same rifle. Of course it would have the stock fully reinforced in all the right places and bedded properly. Despite that they would somehow leave with a broken stock on the rifle. All you would be left to do is redo the bedding for your action.

Depending on how bad tha crack is, just fix it for now.

Some thhin Accu-glas/bedding, into the crack will glue and hold it. Then pin the wrist cross bolt it, and bed the action.

If you can find someone to MAKE you a stock, give them the busted one for a pattern.

Find a way do get it done, and use that iron as it was ment to be used.

Good luck,

Keith

look up the term "laminates"
Surely someone can sneak you a glass or canvas laminate tube for the pistol grip and some sheet material to place in the bedding. Apply your favorite epoxy.

then make sure your false teeth are secure

Yes it would be nice if Ruger would do the right thing, but that isn't likely to happen because of Govment regs, not necessarily Rugers fault.!!!

There are MANY ways to fix your problem, pillar bedding, cross bolts, pin down the wrist and I can't believe there are no machine shops there that couldn't make you a bedding block or at least a nice recoil lug abutment out of alum and add a rod up the forend to redistribute the recoil forces...

I'm not a machinist or gunsmith in any manor of speaking but I don't have many problems making bedding blocks for myself, for several makes of rifles, milling out wood in the receiver area and pinning/epoxying in the block and doing the other "fixes".

I've "fixed" several heavy recoiling rifles (375/416/458) with laminated stocks and they are still trucking along after at least an additional 100-150 rounds through them.

Basically you need to go metal on metal with the clamping...i.e. bedding block or pillars AND to reinforce the walls of the magazine cutout with a thin piece of shim...to stop the receiver/barrel from flexing and moving backwards. Full bedding and a forward recoil lug would work also.

I do an additional reinforcement by epoxying in a 1/4-5/16" rod in a channel in the forend, attached to the recoil lug abutment which also helps stabilize the whole thing. I do this on ALL my heavy hitter stocks no matter WHAT type of material they are made of...and I use good Walnut for the stocks more often than not...now.

In the old days there used to be a synthetic stock for the Tang Rugers...Ramline I think...that could be modified to work with the new Rugers I would think...I have one on my 416 Taylor and I shoot 400 gr bullets within 50 fs of what the old 416 Rugby produced and not very far behind the 416 Rem or 416 Ruger. You might look around for one of those.

Luck

FWIW Zimguide has an RSM and apparently no one makes after market stocks for them. When I spoke to Hogue on Zimguide's behalf the other day, I told them this. Maybe if some of you other folks who have RSM's and want after market stocks contact Hogue, they will add them to the product line.
BTW the RSM has a forearm recoil lug from the factory. If they are splitting in the wrist, I would suspect inadequate inletting by the factory in the tang area.

ZIM Guide,

Speak to ARMTECH (they advertise in MAGNUM Magazine). They are located not too far South of you and Chris will make what you're looking for in about two weeks straight.

They are near Potchefstroom, by the way, but his synthetics are first-class. A b uddy of mine recently took one on his .375 to the CAR and came back after four heavy thundershowers, a 51-inch Lord Derby and four buff, most happy.

Contact Armtech in SA!

Are you willing to use a Ruger "Boat Paddle" I have one which came from a ruger which had a large barrel added. I replaced it with wood but the paddle will not fit any other uses. This should handle a Lott barrel and you can bed it to fit.

Cheap plus shipping.
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Frank