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What are the advantages and disadvantages of each? I have a Marlin Guide gun that has significant tool marks at the start of my barrel. Which method should I use? I'm far from a gunsmith..is this something that I should leave to a more experienced person?

Any opinions would be appreciated,
 
Posts: 26 | Location: Louisville, KY USA | Registered: 03 August 2002Reply With Quote
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Do a web search for a product called Final Finish.
I would stay away from the NECO fire-lapping process.
 
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The best way is to just shoot it, that is better than any of the above methods, lapping is in simple terms "wear"...and I am sure the practice won't hurt you or anyone else.

"Tool marks" lapped out may damage the barrel to a great degree..Lapping is for minor burrs etc.

With the 45-70, a rough bore is not likely to hinder its shooting capability to any great degree..the big slow bullets are not as prone to sincitivity as the faster calibers.

I guess I'm saying if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Why create a non existant problem, unless your just bored.
 
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The problem I'm having is bad leading with anything about 1600 fps or higher with hard cast lead bullets. Even Gas checked bullets. If I fire 3 bullets and then take a look up the bore you can tell that the leading is starting where the tool marks are. After 5 or 6 shots with a 1800 fps bullet the accuracy is so bad I can't hit paper.

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I think Ray's advice is best. Shoot a 100 jacketed rounds then see if leading is still as bad. Clean to bare steel every 5 or 10 rounds.

I do have a NECO lapping kit, and have used it on occasion on some very rough factory rifle and pistol barrels. The NECO process is a pain, and I won't use the brass again because the grit will likely be embedded in the case neck.

You could try to give the rough part a good polishing with a tight patch and some JB, but I would still shoot it a bunch with some jacketed bullets.

Good luck.

Steve

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Posts: 267 | Location: Houston, TX | Registered: 01 April 2002Reply With Quote
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Send it back to marlin and politely but firmly tell them that this is a manufacturing defect and you expect them to make it good.
 
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I've had quite alot of experience with barrels that fouled badly. Let me say once again that the FINAL FINISH is just that the Final Finish of your spending money on a losing proposition. Believe me, there is nothing that you can do to fix such a barrel. Don't spend another dollar or minute on it. Send it back to Marlin and tell them they sent you a defective barrel and you want a new one. All these Lapping methods do is wear out the throat of your barrel. I have a borescope and I can even take pictures of the wear induced. Fire lapping and Final Finish are just marketing gimmics for people who just don't want to face the facts. I will probably get ten E-mails from peple who swear this works, but I every time this subject comes up, I find that none of them have ever looked down a borescope ( it's scary even with a good barrel). Most Marlins shoot great with cast bullets and don't foul perceptively until you exceed 2000fps. I hope this helps.-Rob
 
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