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I got a CZ 550 in 375 H&H Magnum the other day.

Brand new rifle.

I decided to work some loads with it.

I put a scope on it using Italian made Picatinny mounts.

Point of impact was so low I ran out of scope adjustments.

When this happened in the past, I used pieces of metal cut off pop cans, and they always worked.

I don't remember having to use more than 3 before.

Well, I did put three in and shot it.

Still way too low.

So I put 3 more shims.

Sone nuts here were asking if it makes a difference if the shims are from normal drinks or diet ones!

Still needed more, as the POI was not right with the scope.

But, I discovered something new.

Never happened to me before, and frankly, have no idea what is causing it.

After 2-3 shots, the screws on this ring become loose!!

I tighten them as much as I could.

Shoot 3 rounds, and they are loose again!

What the hell is causing it?

I cannot tighten them any more, or I will break the heads.

I have steel shims on order, and when these come I will replace the aluminum ones and see if the same occurs again!!


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Wrong mount, wrong rings.
 
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Wrong mount, wrong rings.


No.

Both are for this action.

Could be something wrong with them.

Have had to shim lots of factory rifles, but never as much as this one.


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Could your mounts have 10* or 20* of elevation built in? Can you reverse them?


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Could your mounts have 10* or 20* of elevation built in? Can you reverse them?


likely the bases are of different heights


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Could your mounts have 10* or 20* of elevation built in? Can you reverse them?


Did not think of this, thank you.

But the ones with built in elevation are normally marked.

I did not look, as they came as standard.

Will check tomorrow.


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Measure the pic rail. Check if maybe it is a little narrow in the front. Maybe fix it by laying a strip of can across the pic rail and folding it to fit before mounting the ring bottom half.
 
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Do they make 1 piece Picatinny MOA rails for the CZ . Like clowdis said. Maybe they shipped you an MOA long range Piccy.
 
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I had a CZ Rigby that wouldn't zero the scope for elevation. I pulled the barrel off and machined a barrel stub to hold in the mill vise. indicated the stub level and put the rings on with a ground 18" x 1" bar. In 12" of travel the bar was .136" out of parallel with the barrel stub in the vise.

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Action face is not square.you’ve got a drooping barrel. Prescribe viagra to give it some lift.
 
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The shortest book in world is Italian war heroes, so it stands to reason we are not good with rifles or their accessories.

The base was probably designed for shooting fleeing Italian soldiers in the legs.

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Problem fixed.

By changing mounts.

I had to give up, after so many attempts at putting different shims in.

The difference was so big it was really not feasible.

I removed the Italian made Picatinny bases and rings and replaced them with German made EWE mounts.

Worked first time without any shims!


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I was given the wrong set of rings for my first NO.1 had the same trouble.
 
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We put this rifle to good use yesterday.

Several companies bring old, replaced hard drives, to be destroyed.

I remember years ago one company advertising a hard drive with a bullet hole in it claiming they recover the data.

Bullshit of course.

So set the drives in the tunnel, 5 deep, and blasted them with 300 grain Walterhog bullets driven by 75 grains of W760.

Velocity is about 2470 FPS.

We could have had them more than 5 deep, but everyone wanted to kill some! clap


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