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Loctite for action screws?

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01 February 2010, 02:53
GDOG
Loctite for action screws?
Is this necessary or helpful?
01 February 2010, 03:10
craigster
If the rifle is bedded properly (or even halfway decently), I don't see it being at all necessary. Now if the action screws start to loosen up after a shooting session or two I'd be looking for other problems.
01 February 2010, 03:44
lal
A bit of nail polish does the trick. Just make sure the threads are clean and grease free.
01 February 2010, 04:05
jeffeosso
can be, if used right .. LOL.. ask shootaway!


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01 February 2010, 04:57
Duane Wiebe
Well...gotta say this...I wish loc-tite (for screws) were made illegal in the gun trade.

"If a drop is good, a cup full should be better" mentality exists.
Don't use loctite on the guard screws...completely unecessary. I do not use it on ring or base screws either.

I have NEVER had a ring or base come loose in about forty years of gunmaking.

The base screws are wound in TIGHT with a rather small handle on the driver...then I smack the driver, while in the slot with a hammer...you'll take about another 1/8-1/4 turn...now it's in for the duration and life of the fiream...It will never come loose and it will take a well fitting blade to break it loose with a good grip on the handle.

I've drilled out too many loc tited screws to have any patience with the indescriminate use of this product....OK...I've vented!
01 February 2010, 05:45
shootaway
I have never used loctite on any rifle's guard screws until I shot the 458 lott and 458 win mag.I tightened the guard screws down with a torque wrench factory set at 65 lbs inch.After a couple of sessions at the range the screws would loosten,groups got large and POI would change alot.I then used blue loctite and that worked for a while but they still loostened and POI would change again.This caused confusion because I didn't expect the screws to loosten and I thought something else was wrong.It took me a while to discover the screws were loose again.I know use red loctite and I doubt that it will hold forever but it should hold for some time.I did a search on the net and found a video demonstrating the correct procedure to take apart and put back a Ruger rifle.I think the video was made by Ruger or another company.I was surprised when they suggested that the angled recoil screw,on the Ruger magnum,should be set at 95 lbs inch.A large torque wrench that took two hands to work,was used.I would go as far as saying that IMO,if you don't use at least red loctite on such dangerous game calibers,your looking for trouble.As for open sight screws,I've found that red loctite wasn't enough and I know use acraglass on the sight screw.
01 February 2010, 08:33
kcstott
I have to agree is is not needed on screws properly fitted to the action and the action properly fitted to the stock. And if improperly fitted well that is not going to be fixed with loc tite.

That said I have used loc tite on base screw in the past but have not recently as I feel it doesn't help.

That said If you do choose to use loctite Only and I mean ONLY USE THE BLUE grade or PURPLE. this is the medium and low strength stuff. Red loctite is too strong and green is way over board.
Now that is just a generalization as there are about four grades each in each color with red having about six types.
Like I said if you choose to use it PURPLE is the one to use with blue being the next choice but really not needed especially with the technique the Duane mentioned.


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01 February 2010, 16:02
DMB
Back in my old days, I did LocTite scope bases, but never action screws. Having learned a few things, I stopped using it about 30 years ago for scope bases as proper torque is THE answer, for all rifle screws.




01 February 2010, 18:24
kcstott
quote:
Originally posted by DMB:
Back in my old days, I did LocTite scope bases, but never action screws. Having learned a few things, I stopped using it about 30 years ago for scope bases as proper torque is THE answer, for all rifle screws.


And proper fitting tools


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01 February 2010, 20:39
Westpac
I wish I had a buck for every scope ring screw, base screw and action screw I've had to drill to remove over the years... oh wait, I did get a buck for everyone... Never mind. Big Grin

The only thing I use on base screws is a drop of oil, and a whack with the hammer to set it. If guards screws are coming loose, I would be inclined to look at the bedding and stock material to see if it was sturdy enough to support the action during recoil or to keep the material from collapsing under the torque of the screwdriver.


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01 February 2010, 21:01
Leo L.
There are different kinds of Loctite. Some are removable and some are permanent.
01 February 2010, 21:36
butchloc
quote:
Posted 01 February 2010 04:57 Hide Post
Well...gotta say this...I wish loc-tite (for screws) were made illegal in the gun trade.

oh yeah thumb
and not only on guns