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In a Yugo M48. A 284 Winny or a 7x57 Ackley?

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Which one would you go with & why.

Choices:
284 Win.
7x57 Ackley Imp.

 



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Well I voted for the 7x57AI only because you didn't list the 7x57. I have just never cared for the 284 case. Many do I simply don't.

I would build a nice 7x57. On paper you will see huge gains shown for the 7X57AI. But those gains are compared to factory loaded to 51,000psi. My wifes 22" 7X57 shoots a 140Accubond at 2825fps measured. Brass is on it's 5th loading.

The 100-150fps you give up campared to the 284 your target will never notice.


As usual just my $.02
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Originally posted by ramrod340:
Well I voted for the 7x57AI only because you didn't list the 7x57. I have just never cared for the 284 case. Many do I simply don't.

I would build a nice 7x57. On paper you will see huge gains shown for the 7X57AI. But those gains are compared to factory loaded to 51,000psi. My wifes 22" 7X57 shoots a 140Accubond at 2825fps measured. Brass is on it's 5th loading.

The 100-150fps you give up campared to the 284 your target will never notice.


Yup.....I agree but I'd first check to see if the 280 Rem will fit in the magazine.


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It would be interesting to see one of the 'smiths post addressing the possibility of feeding problems with the rebated rim on the .284.

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The 280 is too long even in a standard 98 action with 160 gr bullets seated out correctly.

I want more velocity than the 7x57 can give within normal pressures.



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I went with 7X57 imp because I don't like tweaking mauser rails and boxes. The imp won't feed as slick as the standard X57, but it'll be less work than a .284.

Besides, on a mauser action, a .284 just seems wrong vs a 7X57 Big Grin


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Doug-

I voted for the .284 and my reasons come purely from a reloading perspective.

Fire forming brass is a pain in the butt; plain and simple.

I had a 7x57 AI. It is a great cartridge, but you have to fire form brass for your full power loads which is why you want an Ackley Improved to begin with.

I still like tinkering with wildcats especially if I am necking something up or down.

With the .284 you can load it and go.

Good luck!


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I can't decide! They're both too good!

Probably the 284, just because you avoid having to fire-form.


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7-08 and forget about it.
 
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If were gonna vote on it, I'll have to go with 7X57. Less hassle getting it to feed. Now it were mine I'd stick with the 7-08, no fuss no muss, velocity increase is marginal in my opinion and not worth the hassle. Have a Nice Day


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I voted for the .284 because I imagine Doug has a whole safe full of 7x57's and would want something different just for the hell of it.

And that's my $.02.


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Doug Humbarger
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Doug-

One other thing regarding the .284 Winchester. I would make it a long-throated .284 so that you could seat your bullets futher out giving you greater powder capacity.

I would think that action would accomodate the longer overall cartrige length.

Best of luck!!


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