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12 April 2006, 07:11
Rick 0311What happened???
I’ve now been officially “chastised†for my gutter vernacular (I had to look that one up!) so I guess I’ve joined thae club of all the other guys on here that our moderator feels a need to PM in his duty as den-mother or chaperon, or whatever!
From the emails I’ve gotten from the other members of that exclusive club I must say that I feel quite honored to have joined their ranks.
Maybe we could call ourselves the band of bubba- ettes!!!

12 April 2006, 07:18
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
Rick
And so now you are the moderator??
No, you little twit, my parents were married so I don’t qualify for that job.
Why don’t you go back to being the hall monitor at your Jr. High and catch some kids smoking in the bathroom or chewing gum or something.
Rick, did ya get swatted with a yard stick across your Ass ?

12 April 2006, 07:30
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by GSP7:
Rick, did ya get swatted with a yard stick across your Ass ?

TOO FUN !!
Yeah, I was a “bad-boy!â€
I think, (in my best Strother Martin impersonation), what we have here is a “faila ta caa-muncate.â€
Or...a very good example of what happens when a couple of Alpha-Males try to decide which one is dominant.
quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
Rick
And so now you are the moderator??
No, you little twit, my parents were married so I don’t qualify for that job.
Why don’t you go back to being the hall monitor at your Jr. High and catch some kids smoking in the bathroom or chewing gum or something.

12 April 2006, 08:42
GeorgeSPiss, moan, piss, moan.
If some people didn't feel the need to start a pissing match every time something doesn't go there way, we wouldn't need the

emoticon (which I introduced here, by the way

).
George
12 April 2006, 08:44
22WRFquote:
my parents were married so I don’t qualify for that job.
probably not to each other when you were conceived.
12 April 2006, 08:52
Rick 0311Oh, great...next Don and Saeed gonna show up? No...Saeed’s probably laughing his ass off watching his boys running around checking to see that all the “kids†are behaving while the teacher is in the bathroom!
Don’t you guys have some fund raiser for Hillary to go to or something?
12 April 2006, 08:54
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
quote:
my parents were married so I don’t qualify for that job.
probably not to each other when you were conceived.
Oh, stop it...you’re getting too vulgar! Is there any truth to the rumor that 22WRF in Souix Indian language means “Dances with Gerbils.†???
12 April 2006, 09:01
22WRFBy your posts you claim to know everything so why ask a question.
We posters are all spoiled on this site.
I've copped some flack from posters but not moderators (Yet). The previous forum I was on was so tough you wern't allowed to go S*** , because people "knew in their mind what you meant".
So when the moderator roused on me one day (I mentioned this AR forum,) I had to leave because I couldn't express myself properly in normal english.

12 April 2006, 09:14
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
By your posts you claim to know everything so why ask a question.
You go Girl...you’re on a roll here! You know, if you got out your dictionary you could probably come up with some really glib comments that would just have me stammering and fumbling for a reply.

12 April 2006, 09:19
22WRFYour already stammering and fumbling. You don't need any help from me.
12 April 2006, 09:23
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
Your already stammering and fumbling. You don't need any help from me.
You’re cheating, I know you are! Who’s helping you with these witty posts? Have you got Gore Videl spending the night again?
12 April 2006, 09:33
Customstox"It degrenerated into name calling and reputation attacks on people that don't post here. It was no longer a gunsmithing topic, in the least, nor productive, and I sent to the moderated que."
Jeffe, I just don't see it. People questioned his pricing and how he could do the work for that price but I certainly never saw this person name slandered or his work quality questioned. Deleting it was a very poor choice, it was a valid discussion related to gunsmithing and what folks are charging for it. I thought the guy was horribly underpriced.
I thought the original request a bit, or more than a bit rediculous. Maybe we need one on where $1 a gallon gas has gone, but then that is another story.
This was the weakest case for censorship I have ever seen on this site or any other.
quote:
Originally posted by malm:
Now you see it, now you don't. Hokus, fucking pokus! Is there a reason that the $100.00 barrel discussion thread disappeared??? It was entertaining...
It is now in Miscellaneous.
Don
12 April 2006, 19:08
jeffeossoThanks Don,
Chic, I beg to differ, the worst type of censorship brooks no criticism. This entire thread's presence refutes that premise. Now, of course I can't argue about the marital status of my parents before my birth, though that has little to do with me actually being a ba$$tard, but I take that this is an expected requirement for a mod

Not to challenge anyone, but does typing F@#$@#$@#$ and a####ole in a pulic forum seem in any way a desirable and/or preffered method for discussion to occur?
jeffe
12 April 2006, 19:15
Jim KobeJeffe:
Would it be okay if the guy had typed in "Phuque Queue" instead?

Jim Kobe
10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild
12 April 2006, 19:27
craigsterWill it be okay if I use the words copulate and anal orifice when referring to someone I really don't like?
12 April 2006, 19:27
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
Jeffe:
Would it be okay if the guy had typed in "Phuque Queue" instead?
I would die laughing, like I am right now
12 April 2006, 19:51
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by DRG:
quote:
Originally posted by malm:
Now you see it, now you don't. Hokus, fucking pokus! Is there a reason that the $100.00 barrel discussion thread disappeared??? It was entertaining...
It is now in Miscellaneous.
Don

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12 April 2006, 21:45
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Thanks Don,
Chic, I beg to differ, the worst type of censorship brooks no criticism. This entire thread's presence refutes that premise. Now, of course I can't argue about the marital status of my parents before my birth, though that has little to do with me actually being a ba$$tard, but I take that this is an expected requirement for a mod

Not to challenge anyone, but does typing F@#$@#$@#$ and a####ole in a pulic forum seem in any way a desirable and/or preffered method for discussion to occur?
jeffe
jeffe,
I replied to 22WRF, the little “kitty-cat†(see, I didn’t say pussy!) using that language as a JOKE because of his/her [?] apparent shock at seeing such words printed in public. Which is kind of funny since he/she turned right around and quoted my post and put those “offensive†words right back on the screen!
As I said in reply to your several PM’s on this subject, you are taking this whole “moderator†thing just a wee-bit seriously...IMO.
Us “kids†were all getting along just fine before you decided to start the spankings.
My whole point (if there was one) is that you seem to be quite selective in how you enforce these supposed rules on language and on “fair-play†when topics are being discussed on here...and I find that just a bit hypocritical to say the least.
12 April 2006, 21:55
22WRFquote:
Which is kind of funny since he/she turned right around and quoted my post and put those “offensive†words right back on the screen!
Please point out which post I made where I copied those "offensive" words right back on the screen.
Moreover, I didn't say I was shocked. Rather, I just tried to point out that there may be folks who have kids looking at this forum, and those folks kind of trust that AR is a good wholesome forum dedicated to people who love guns and not a place where a lot of colorful language is going on.
By the way Rick, even though I never met the guy, I think Gore spelled his last name VIDAL.
In addition, I made a post speaking of the loose set of rules that AR operates on. What I was trying to get at in a roundabout way is whether removing something is censorship when it is (if in fact it is) against the rules in the first place.
12 April 2006, 22:07
GeorgeSYou know, this threads is off-topic.
Jeff, you should move it to Miscellaneous Topics.

George
12 April 2006, 22:10
Fjoldquote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Piss, moan, piss, moan.
If some people didn't feel the need to start a pissing match every time something doesn't go there way, we wouldn't need the

emoticon (which I introduced here, by the way

).
George
Which I asked for, by the way.
Frank
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12 April 2006, 22:20
GeorgeSquote:
Originally posted by Fjold:
quote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Piss, moan, piss, moan.
If some people didn't feel the need to start a pissing match every time something doesn't go there way, we wouldn't need the

emoticon (which I introduced here, by the way

).
George
Which I asked for, by the way.
Fjold,
We lefties can be trouble, huh?

George
12 April 2006, 22:38
Tex21Guys,
Didn't we pass gunsmithing up a ways back on our way to the pissing contest? I realize we're all grownups and none of us are offended by foul language, but what does any of this have to do with this forum? Methinks nothing....
Jason
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
12 April 2006, 22:39
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
quote:
Which is kind of funny since he/she turned right around and quoted my post and put those “offensive†words right back on the screen!
Please point out which post I made where I copied those "offensive" words right back on the screen.
Moreover, I didn't say I was shocked. Rather, I just tried to point out that there may be folks who have kids looking at this forum, and those folks kind of trust that AR is a good wholesome forum dedicated to people who love guns and not a place where a lot of colorful language is going on.
By the way Rick, even though I never met the guy, I think Gore spelled his last name VIDAL.
In addition, I made a post speaking of the loose set of rules that AR operates on. What I was trying to get at in a roundabout way is whether removing something is censorship when it is (if in fact it is) against the rules in the first place.
Why am I not all that surprised that you know how to spell his last name????????

Maybe you are the mighty moderators can “splain†me this one. If this offensive language is against all these rules, and we are so worried about kids seeing it and peoples work computers setting off alarms, why did the thread just get moved over to another area??? Does the Misc. section have some filter that doesn’t allow kids and office networks to see the offensive words???? It’s okay to “trash†someone as long as you do it in the correct area????
Just another example of the silliness, and hypocrisy going on here. You can use whatever language you want in some AR forums, but in others its against the “rules?â€
Yes Rick you've been wronged

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quote:
Originally posted by Tex21:
Guys,
Didn't we pass gunsmithing up a ways back on our way to the pissing contest? I realize we're all grownups and none of us are offended by foul language, but what does any of this have to do with this forum? Methinks nothing....
Tex21,
I think the real issue is that there was a valid discussion of gunsmithing methods that by my recollection didn't involve the name calling that some assert was going on. Then, for some reason, the plug was pulled on the thread. I think that it was good that many here voiced their objection to this censorship and, as a result, the opriginal thread has been restored allowing further discussion of the original topic.
If this topic had not been posted in the gunsmithing forum who would have read it?
I for one am horrified by foul language. Everytime I use it, it pisses me off, lol.
Aut vincere aut mori
12 April 2006, 23:34
Rick 0311Here’s a good chuckle for you on the topic of people “trashing†others on AR.
Posted on AR by the man that jeffeoso was protecting from others, and from the man that jeffeoso said wasn’t a member of AR and couldn’t come on to defend himself.
“mark d. skaggs
one of us
Posted 15 October 2005 19:23
well there Popenmann, Swaw may be the best choice for you then what was their delivery time frame?. i have heard the A&B barrels rifling is not deep enough for the cast bullets? i don't shoot those so i really can't back up that claim. as far as the reamer goes PTG up here in Oregon makes a good reamer and i have quite a few. but he only makes piloted reamers for special orders which ain't a bad thing. and like any tool maker he ain't fast about getting to it and his customer service sucks. i'll just let you know that up front. now Dave Manson also makes a good reamer too and the lady he has on the phone is very helpful and friendly and a pleasure to talk to unlike the staff Dave Kiff has at PTG if you ever happen to need a reamer re-sharpened don't use PTG it will cost darned near what a new one costs call Dave Manson he charges $30 for any reamer any caliber. there is one more local reamer maker to me and i hear he is the best there is and i get this from some picky bench rest shooters. his name is Hugh Hendriksen he is in Talent Oregon and his # is 541-535-2309 i personally don't know him just his reputation and it's top notch. as far as cast bullets go i think a walther barrel would be a good choice too due to the very deep and heavy 4 groove rifling in the barrels like the orig. mauser barrels had. but as they say that's just my 2 cents.
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12 April 2006, 23:51
510wellsquote:
Originally posted by z1r:
quote:
Originally posted by Tex21:
Guys,
Didn't we pass gunsmithing up a ways back on our way to the pissing contest? I realize we're all grownups and none of us are offended by foul language, but what does any of this have to do with this forum? Methinks nothing....
Tex21,
I think the real issue is that there was a valid discussion of gunsmithing methods that by my recollection didn't involve the name calling that some assert was going on. Then, for some reason, the plug was pulled on the thread. I think that it was good that many here voiced their objection to this censorship and, as a result, the opriginal thread has been restored allowing further discussion of the original topic.
If this topic had not been posted in the gunsmithing forum who would have read it?
I for one am horrified by foul language. Everytime I use it, it pisses me off, lol.
I don't know about you guys but I'm going over to Miscellaneous and see what all the fuss was about
But I must admit while I feel that "bad language" isn't really necessary to express ones self, but it does take a greater than 5th grade vocabulary
I'd much rather just ignore the words (or the post) than have censorship imposed on something that might have value to some readers here. The openness and most poster(s) knowlage levels are one of the good things about this site and why I login here

Roi
P.S. I like the "Phuque Queue" term and am filing it away for future use, thanks

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Constant change is here to stay.
quote:
Originally posted by 510wells:
quote:
Originally posted by z1r:
quote:
Originally posted by Tex21:
Guys,
Didn't we pass gunsmithing up a ways back on our way to the pissing contest? I realize we're all grownups and none of us are offended by foul language, but what does any of this have to do with this forum? Methinks nothing....
Tex21,
I think the real issue is that there was a valid discussion of gunsmithing methods that by my recollection didn't involve the name calling that some assert was going on. Then, for some reason, the plug was pulled on the thread. I think that it was good that many here voiced their objection to this censorship and, as a result, the opriginal thread has been restored allowing further discussion of the original topic.
If this topic had not been posted in the gunsmithing forum who would have read it?
I for one am horrified by foul language. Everytime I use it, it pisses me off, lol.
I don't know about you guys but I'm going over to Miscellaneous and see what all the fuss was about
But I must admit while I feel that "bad language" isn't really necessary to express ones self, but it does take a greater than 5th grade vocabulary
I'd much rather just ignore the words (or the post) than have censorship imposed on something that might have value to some readers here. The openness and most poster(s) knowlage levels are one of the good things about this site and why I login here

Roi
P.S. I like the "Phuque Queue" term and am filing it away for future use, thanks
"Phuque Queue" Yeah, I gotta remember that one too!
Nice post 510wells.
Aut vincere aut mori
13 April 2006, 00:57
Rick 0311For those that might have missed all the flap about language, it didn’t start until AFTER the thread had been removed. The actual thread had little, if any, foul language used.
malm posted a question about where the thread went and used the infamous “F†word in his post. He then got told that such language was not acceptable on AR. And the rest, as they say, is history.
If “we†will be honest about this, it is very apparent that it was not malm’s use of the word that brought the knee-jerk reaction from our moderator, after all that word is used pretty frequently on here, it was the fact that the word was used in connection with an action taken by our moderator that was being questioned.
THAT’S what this is all about...not a silly thread about how much should be charged to barrel a rifle or how long it takes to do so.
What added to this ridiculous exercise was the hypocrisy that many of us saw...not the least being that our moderator had been a participant in the “offensive†thread that he deleted and actually had been one of the most vocal in expressing his disbelief that this guy could barrel a rifle in the time being claimed and for the prices being quoted.
13 April 2006, 18:30
Jim KobeOne last comment and then back to basics. I have that phrase (Phuque Queue) copyrighted and will require payment on its use!

Jim Kobe
10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild
13 April 2006, 19:13
GeorgeSHey, Jim! While you may have the French version copyrighted, I have the Vietnamese (Phuc Hu) and Chinese (Fook yoo) versions copyrighted.

George
13 April 2006, 19:46
CustomstoxThe Egyptian version, like their university, is Farook U.
13 April 2006, 20:20
Cockbird Blasterquote:
Originally posted by Customstox:
The Egyptian version, like their university, is Farook U.
Hey, Jim! While you may have the French version copyrighted, I have the Vietnamese (Phuc Hu) and Chinese (Fook yoo) versions copyrighted.
I happen to be an Egyto-Vietnamese American from French decent, and my kids are reading this. Would the moderator please take care of this offending Shit.

13 April 2006, 20:27
Rick 0311
Someone help me out here...what does the “BS†stand for? It couldn’t be what I think it is since I have it on very high authority that AR does not allow or condone that sort of language on here.

13 April 2006, 20:56
GeorgeSquote:
Originally posted by Cockbird Blaster:
I happen to be an Egyto-Vietnamese American from French decent, and my kids are reading this. Would the moderator please take care of this offending Shit.
I didn't think there were any of those in the Upper US; or is that Uppa US?

George