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VZ 24 rebarreled to 30-06? 338 win mag???
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I was thinking of getting a surplus mauser in 8mm and rebarreling to 30-06 or 338 win mag.

Turning it into an 06 should be easy right?

How about into a 338 win mag?

I remember reading something about the difficulty encountered when rechambering a 30-06 to 338. Hard to get it to feed right or something.

Is it feasible to get a surplus rifle... rebarrel, get a new stock and keep everything else original?


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Yes it is, and if you go the Midway special route you can get a barrel and stock for around $150. The '06 should pretty much just screw on and then ream for headspace, the 338 will need a little work as the case head is larger.

Here is one on sale for $130


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cool!

How's the quality on that barrel?

How much am I looking at here for putting them together? I think I want some open sights too.

This should make an awesome deer rifle.

Thanks!


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Stryker..The A&B barrels get some bad reviews. They are not benchrest quality..but I have a 257 Roberts and a 35 Whelen with A&B barrels and they both shoot fine with my handloads..and neither of those barrels has been prone to copper fouling that some complain about...for a project rifle that will be used for a hunting rifle they should work ok for you...

BTW if you are looking for a 338..don't overlook the 338-06, and the 35 Whelen barrel is available from A&B...neither of those calibers require bolt face or rail modification...

Good luck on your project...

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i'll second the 338-06//

same work as the 30-06, loads more gun...

and loads less work than 338 winmag

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9.3x 62 wil work with little work, even more power the 9.3x64 Brenneke and with not much work and almost .404 J power the 10.75x68 mauser, now with Horneber brass and woodleigh pills it's a compact power house and suited to a fine M98 action !!
 
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Don't try and make a 338 Mag out of it, just too much work and expense.

Stick with a 30-06, 338-06 35 Whelen and the like.


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Mark:

I like your "signature".

Sounds like a preacher we once had that got a call from a church in Florida in January. He told his wife to start packing, as he would start praying for guidance.

(He was tired of Michigan in January)


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The A&B barrels get some bad reviews. They are not benchrest quality

And since when is benchrest quality required or remotely associated with hunting deer and similar game?


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Stryker

You mentioned "deer" rifle. If that is all you want, then you might also consider the 7 x 57 mauser. That cartridge will go through all 98 mausers like greased lightning.

Moreover, if I had a barreled action in 8 x 57 and that barrel shot well enough for hunting purposes I wouldn't hestiate to just leave it on and use that for deer. With a good handload the 8 x 57 is every bit as good of a deer cartridge as any of the other calibers you are considering.
 
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You were talking about keeping this gun original if possible. If thats your plan forget about the 338 Win Mag, with the original stock that combo is going to be a unruley beast, and in the end after you do a lot of work you most probably regret spending the dollars.

VZ-24's are one of my favorite old mauser actions, and I would critically evaluate what your starting with. If the rifle is in very good condition I would keep it original, no changes, work up some loads in the 8x57 and shoot it.

If after the good going over you determine that the rifle needs fixing and rebarelling, I would consider getting a barrel that matched the original contour, if your using the original stock.

Best and most expensive route is to strip the action out and start with a new barrel and stock. This is the route I would consider if I wanted a 338 Mag. An A/B is a cheap route but I look for a better barrel if I was going through the effort. Walther does a ready to go mauser barrrel for that rifle in just about any caliber you want, a little more expensive certainly, but still reasonable. Remember it is going to cost to have the bolt face and the magazine worked on for a mag case of any flavor. If your going to drop that money into that action why go half way.

VZ-24 can be very nice if the effort is put into them and they make a very good custom rifle. On the down side a Bubba gunsmithed VZ-24 will be worth the price of the action and not a whole lot more.

Do you have the vz-24 now or were you thinking of buying one?
 
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What's wrong with the 8X57 cartridge? You can now actually buy good bullets for it and if you hand load you can get a load superior to the 30-06.


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You were talking about keeping this gun original if possible. If thats your plan forget about the 338 Win Mag, with the original stock that combo is going to be a unruley beast, and in the end after you do a lot of work you most probably regret spending the dollars.

VZ-24's are one of my favorite old mauser actions, and I would critically evaluate what your starting with. If the rifle is in very good condition I would keep it original, no changes, work up some loads in the 8x57 and shoot it.

If after the good going over you determine that the rifle needs fixing and rebarelling, I would consider getting a barrel that matched the original contour, if your using the original stock.

Best and most expensive route is to strip the action out and start with a new barrel and stock. This is the route I would consider if I wanted a 338 Mag. An A/B is a cheap route but I look for a better barrel if I was going through the effort. Walther does a ready to go mauser barrrel for that rifle in just about any caliber you want, a little more expensive certainly, but still reasonable. Remember it is going to cost to have the bolt face and the magazine worked on for a mag case of any flavor. If your going to drop that money into that action why go half way.

VZ-24 can be very nice if the effort is put into them and they make a very good custom rifle. On the down side a Bubba gunsmithed VZ-24 will be worth the price of the action and not a whole lot more.

Do you have the vz-24 now or were you thinking of buying one?


hi, I'm planning to get a new stock too. I think I want to keep all the internals original though, like trigger, safety etc. Or not... maybe a Timney trigger. There's lots of models, which one should I get?

I will figure out how to mount a scope later, hopefully I won't have to modified the action that much, I have this thing against holes being drilled into the reciever...

It'll be cool to keep that lion crest.

I think I'll spend a little more and get a shilen barrel + Bell & Carlson stock or something. Maybe even something like a PacNor barrel, going to college, I'm not that rich but I can wait and earn for a nice rifle.

I don't have a VZ 24 yet, I'm looking around the internet for good deals on rifles and actions. Then I'll have my local gun dealer order it for me and he'll probably be the one to put my rifle together too.

Anyone know of good sources for rifles or actions?

Thanks a lot guys!


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Too much work to make a .338 from a mauser, Jeeez what planet do you guys live on... sofa

Chamber, open the bolt face, make a cut on the rails and your done..You have a factory round that is much better than the 338-06 anyway you cut it...but if you must have 338-06 balistics then load it down and get way less pressure.


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Changing out the stock trigger is a good idea, a Timney or a Dayton Traister or both good choices. If your going to restock it and your going through the effort anyway, it really doesn't matter much whether you go to a mag case or not, just a little extra work.

I will check with my smith he had a couple of VZ-24's I don't know if he still has them.

Its "NOT" a VZ-24, but Samco Global has some Persian Mausers for sale. Still a Brno action, very nice start point on a custom, the model is a 98/29. Here is the link:

http://www.samcoglobal.com/rifles.html

Scroll down towards the bottom. The special select barreled action for $179.00 would be a good solid start point.

You might even call and see if they have any actions only.

Lothar Barrels are pre threaded and reasonable here is the link:

http://www.lothar-walther.de/us/index.html
 
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Too much work to make a .338 from a mauser, Jeeez what planet do you guys live on...


Ray, I don't think its an issue at all just open up the bolt face and, minor magazine issues, not any harder than getting a short 300 into this action, a little extra work but pretty straight forward.
 
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Whoa, I'm tempted to get one of those unissued persians... but then I won't be able to bring myself to change it to -06 or 338.


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