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As most of you can tell, I am not in favor of peeing on dogs or biting them etc. I am not a professional trainer but have owned dogs all my life. Having said that I AM in favor of trying ANYTHING that will avoid the dog being "put down" ie killed, because the owner has determined that the dog is "too far gone".
The above quote rings true to me, and I have recommended before, the moral course of action here is for the owner to get professional help with this dog. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Peter I think you understand where I am comeing from. Back then I was fearless and was not going to fail, even if it required getting in Harms way. I was going to do what was need for the dog! JD DRSS 9.3X74 tika 512 9.3X74 SXS Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro | |||
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The dog is scheduled for some Professional help. Michigan law forbids anyone to put down a dog if he/she isn't a vet. (I wonder who lobbied that one through.) He is too much of a liability in town. BTW my hand is still sore where he got me. | |||
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Hmmm? Do you mean a "do it yourself" put down, kinda like shooting it? If so, I am not surprised. However, I am assuming that by "professional help" you mean you are hiring a dog trainer or remedial specialist. If so, good job! Do you have the name of the person? Please keep us posted on the result. Why not contact the "dog whisperer"? Perhaps you can be on TV and we can all learn something. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Sorry Pete, the professional is the Vet. | |||
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Youp, I am VERY sorry to hear that. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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I am sorry to have to do it Pete. I kind of like the dog. I live in town and when he bit me there were witnesses. If he would ever bite anyone else, I would be working for them for three or four years. I guess you would have to call it a business plan. The alternative is a double wire pen where no one can get their fingers through. Always keeping the dog under physical restraint. No way for a dog to live. I have two friends that were neighbors. One a single Mom and the other a single Dad. He had a Plott Hound that her kids would tease. The dog was tied and the kids would come into his yard and tease the dog. He would go and complain to her. Keep your kids out of my backyard and away from my dog. One day the dog played possum and her daughter got too close. She got bit very hard on her face. 20k plus attorney fees was what the judge ordered and that was almost 20 years ago. Too much risk in this sue happy society | |||
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I know it's painful, but probably the right decision. It's just as easy or easier to love a good dog than one that creates it's own set of problems. Get a new lab puppy and go from there, or, I not sure what your local area is like, but down here there are often decent dogs for little or no money because the owners are moving, can't afford to feed them, etc. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I have bred and trained dogs for 40 years. What it really comes down to is...will you ever be able to fully trust a dog again that his bitten. The answer is really .. no ... because from a liability standpoint you can't guarantee that the stimulus that sets the dog off can be prevented or that you can monitor the dog at all times. When yo have "read" enough dogs, you know the difference between the dogs that are "testing" the pecking order and those that have real behavioral problems. There is sometimes only one responsible solution. No dog is worth one "stitch" on a child... | |||
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You did what you needed to do with the dog period, it was a liability and danger,,, personally if it had bitten me like that I would have grabbed hold of the collar and the dog and I would have had it out right then and there. That was your window of oportunity,,, after that he had gotten away with it. I would not have really "hurt" the dog but it would have thought I was going to kill it! Ever watch a Alpha dog keep order in a group of dogs? nothing gentel or friendly about it, fangs are out and dogs get hurt learning their place,,,kept a pack of plott hounds for years, I NEVER had problems with one showing agression towards me or mine, they were friendly and loving towards me as I was towards them, but they knew who was boss,, new dogs learned that quick more from the way the other older dogs treated me with respect, a hard headed dog would learn quickly from me personally. and plotts are hard headed dogs with rough personalities when it comes to taking orders and establishing pecking orders,,, I had a big red plott that would pound another dog in a heartbeat to keep his alpha status amonst the dogs but always came up to me tail down and acting goofy,, and I let him run amuck through the other dogs if they needed it because things were real smooth with him in charge of the other dogs. Dogs are not people, they do not think like people or respond like people. Location Western NC,,, via alot of other places, One wife Two kids Three Glocks and a couple cats. | |||
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Best post yet. | |||
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Hate to say it, dog must go. I don't allow dogs to bite me under any circumstances. He gets to meet Sam Colt out in the back 40 with a shovel. | |||
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I would think hard about putting the dog down and start over with an animal that can be trusted. It would depend on what my objectives were. If my objective was to see if I could reconstruct the dog, I would remove him from soceity unless he was on a lead and then do the long slow bond building thing. (been there done that) If my objective was to have a viable hunting partner who I could take onto public hunting lands, I think that I would put the dog down and go find a new partner. What would you do if your human hunting buddy turned around on the snow drift and sucker punched you not once, but twice. Would you worry about how you could make him stop punching you, or, would you find a new hunting partner. my 2 cents. rc | |||
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I would take him to the vet and have him put down. However, I was not responsible for training him in the first place! If I was, I would not be blaming him, but looking to myself for the problem. But, that's just me. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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