Guys, I am thinking about buying an 1892, preferably in 44-40. Winchester makes one but so do other companies like Rossi. Who makes the nicest one?

I have an old 25/20 I woud sell if your interested in it.

Thanks for the offer 69 but I am looking for a new gun.

I bought a Winchester (Miroku) and I think it's great. Fit and finish are very nice and the bore is smooth as glass.

I bought a Rossi and had it worked by a smith

http://www.stevesgunz.com/

it is great

I still needed to finish the stock...

I'm guessen the Win would be better out of the box

Doug Turnbull!
The 92 is a 44-40 takedown and the 1886 is a 32 inch barreled 50-110.

Curious about the 44-40? It's this a difficult cartridge to reload? If not reloading isn't this cartridge expensive to use factory loads?

Jim

Jim,
its said to be difficult to reload. I can't say that I have had any problems reloading it other than a problem using Magtech brass. The Magtech cases (according to Magtech are designed around south American specs) the have a channelure around the case where US manufactured cases have a shoulder. Well, the Magtechs will eventually split there after several firings.
With US cases, one can load and fire with the same ease as 44 mag. cases. I shoot 44-40 in CAS with Black powder to the tune of 1000 rounds a month. With smokeless in a 92, you can equal a 44 magnum performance with unique and a 200 grain xtp. Makes a good short range deer gun.

Dave, PM sent.

If I remember correctly the 38-40 and the 44-40 are spin offs from the 45 Colt. Or maybe the 45 Colt is a spin off from the other two.
I shoot a Rossi 92 in 45 Colt with good effect.
Thanks for filling me in on the 44-40.

Jim

Sam:

PM answered.

Guys, as a general rule I don't reload pistol cartridges. I have an Uberi 1873 in 44-40. I have a case of Winchester 200 grain lead ammo that I bought for it that's why I was thinking about the 92 in 44-40.

I use Starline brass, and it loads like any other cartridge though the 44-40 neck is very thin and easily damaged. I shoot almost magnum level loads with 200 grain JSP bullets and get excellent accuracy.

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Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:
Jim,
its said to be difficult to reload. I can't say that I have had any problems reloading it other than a problem using Magtech brass. The Magtech cases (according to Magtech are designed around south American specs) the have a channelure around the case where US manufactured cases have a shoulder. Well, the Magtechs will eventually split there after several firings.
With US cases, one can load and fire with the same ease as 44 mag. cases. I shoot 44-40 in CAS with Black powder to the tune of 1000 rounds a month. With smokeless in a 92, you can equal a 44 magnum performance with unique and a 200 grain xtp. Makes a good short range deer gun.

Dave,

I have one of the Rossi 1892's and really like it. That said, I think the Winchester/Browning/Miroku guns are always well-finished and well-machined. The sample I saw at the NRA show was "nicer" than my Rossi.

I don't think you can go wrong.

Steve

srose had a unfired 44 Mag model 92 Browning with a 20 inch barrel that he was willing to part with. The check went in the mail today. Thanks Sam.

I have a Rossi 92 & a new Winchester 92. The Win. is a more substantial rifle, but so is the 2x price.

The Rossi 92's are good rifles. The parts inside lack final polishing but they all function and shoot fine. The Winchester's have a much better finish to them, (and they have Winchester stamped on them) but they cost a great deal more.

The .44/40 is not a difficult cartridge to reload. I have never had any issues with it apart from getting a good crimp sometimes. The case mouths are thinner, but that's not a barrier to anything.
I would get a Rossi in .44/40, I have owned or used three of them in that caliber over the years, and will get another one one day, just because I like them. My father had one with 24inch octagonal barrel and it was a 1-1.5 inch grouper at 100 yards, with a tang peep sight on it.