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Has anyone shot the Smigh 317 Kit gun with 3in. barrel?

How was accuracy compared to other 22s?

Did you like the gun?

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My buddy has one that I shot. Very hard trigger pull for a lightweight shooter but that could be fixed. Better than most in the accuracy department with the Hi Vis sights. I think it would be one to consider for its designed purpose but also realize the limitations of accuracy with that shorter barrel vs. a target auto.
 
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I have one and think that it is great
 
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I have a Browning Buckmark that I use for birds, rabbits when camping. Works fine out to about 30yd.s if I can get a steady rest. Problem is that it is really too heavy and bulky.

How do you think the SW 317 Kit gun would compard for accuracy?

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Jeff Quinn did a review of it... he loved it.
for the money, I have had a taurus 94 4" SSS rebarreled and the barrel lightened...


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I read the article Jeff. I'm a little leary of the 3" barrel and the extreemly light weight.

Hoping to hear from someone (other than a gun rag guy) who has shot one. Wink

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Okay ..Let me start with "I am NO pistol expert, period"

so my feedback is I felt the barrel was TOO small, in diameter, for something that would be a "backpocket" gun for me. the overall size and weight would not be indusive to accurate shooting (rabbits at 25-30 yards, lets say) and it was generally too small.

I then spent some time with Rodney's 617 -- GREAT gun, TOO big for what I was looking for.

even the 63 was too big

The taurus 94ss4 seemed to be about perfect.. not all that much heavier than the 317, rugged ADJUSTABLE sights, and 9 shot..

So, I bought one. It shot pretty good, but I WANT to shoot SSS bullets, so I am currently in process of having that rebarreled to 1:10 shilen barrel, with a light contour, in order to have a nice trailgun ... which i kinda define as a "larger" kit gun, but still very light.

In short, I decided to spend the money on the taurus to make it exactly what I wanted, rather than settle for a 317 or 617 or even 63 ... as I DO want stainless 22 pistols, for maint. reasons
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Jeff,

I hadn't considered Tauras. They look like a decent gun. Is the 94 ss4 smaller than the Smith 63?

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use for birds, rabbits when camping. Works fine out to about 30yd.

If this is your standard then I honestly don't see how a 3 inch barrel gun can provide this kind of accuracy. I don't care who makes it. The sight radius is not long enough. The Buckmark is a semi auto which will have a better trigger than the 317. I believe that you can mount a red dot sight which will dramatically improve the useful accuracy. I honestly don't see any comparison between the two. It sounds like you really want a 317. Have you tried a gunshop that has a range attached? They may let you shoot one.
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Thanks Peter,

I love to shoot the buckmark but it's just a little heavy for a "trail gun".

Actually I'm pretty well decided against the 317. Current thinking is the Smith Model 34 with 4in. barrel.

The Tauras is interesting for significantly less money. My guess, however is that you would spend the difference in trigger work etc.

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True! I have a Taurus, stainless steel, 4" barrel in 22 mag. The trigger is almost impossible DA, and barely acceptable SA. It does have fuly adjustable sights, but is not that accurate ie. minute of rabbit at 25 yards.
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I have a Browning Buckmark that I use for birds, rabbits when camping. Works fine out to about 30yd.s if I can get a steady rest. Problem is that it is really too heavy and bulky.

How do you think the SW 317 Kit gun would compard for accuracy?

Brett


Buckmark here too; great accuracy, great trigger, and the 4" barrel is perfect for a camp pistol.




 
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The taurus is a smallet gun than the 63 and certainly than the 617 .. if you want to do a "trigger job" DON'T .. replace the trigger return spring, and find a VERY nice trigger, SA .. DA? i don't CARE how hard it is .. that is ALSO cocking the hammer and making it softer leads to failures to fire.

no joke, a 45cent spring, or a 5cent "spring turner" will improve the taurus ..


in terms of weight
317 ?? i don't remember
taurus 94 4" -- like 24oz
63,5" over 32 oz
617-6" over 35 oz
taurus tracker - even more.

Peter, no offense - I disagree that sight radius will make the gun inaccurate .. harder to learn to shoot, sure, but the gun can STILL be accurate.

When one is taking a shot at game, at that middlish distance, one will be in single action, and in deep concentration .. that's not a double action, snap shooting situation .... at least not for me. But I AINT a pistolaro


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True! I have a Taurus, stainless steel, 4" barrel in 22 mag. The trigger is almost impossible DA, and barely acceptable SA. It does have fuly adjustable sights, but is not that accurate ie. minute of rabbit at 25 yards.
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Then yours, Peter, is a piece of junk that needs to be sent back.. my 94ss4 (now off for a 1:10 twist barrel to shoot SSS) was less than 1.5" at 25 ... that's minute of rabit HEAD, and certainly body shots.. i expect, after a couple bricks of practice, that i'll get some better.

I don't LIKE automajic 22s .. have had several, never warmed to them, no matter how well they shot .. the walther p22 was the closest to one I liked.. small, light, and accurate.. heck, it didn't even jam often, and was next to what I thought of as a near perfect 22 automajic... but not my favorite!


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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