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I saw an ad for a discounted grizzly hunt on the north slope of the Brooks Range in late August. Before I talk to the outfitter I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the hides should be like that time of the year? Is it too early in the fall to hunt? Also, what would the weather be like? Any help would be appreciated.

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I would say the hides should be pretty good in Aug. I hunt sheep on the north side and have hunted & asst. guided on the south side. I general, I'd plan to be out of the Brooks on Labor Day. In fact since Labor Day is the 7th this year, in general, I'd try to be out by about the 5th. Weather can change in minutes on the slope & it can get quite cold w/ snow.
I know I'd go for it, just be prepared.
I'd say that later in Aug. might be better but talk to your guide.
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I spent a couple of years working up there but that was over 20 years ago now.
We would go up the first part of Aug and come back in time to make the (at that time) Sept 10 moose season in 9&17.
It was allways very nice when we went up and by sept pritty cold. Had a big dump of snow on Aug 20th one year that would have put an end to the hunting but we were allready done. That was an unusuall snow and I heard later that it wormed up and melted after we beat down the strip and got out of there.
I would vote you consider going it is a truely fantasic place and I would love to get back there some day.
I was in ANWR on the Hulahula. What part of the Brooks is this hunt offered in?


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Thanks for the feedback. I'm not sure yet of the exact area. I wanted to get some information from the forum before I called and talked to the outfitter. I'll check tomorrow. I've always wanted to hunt in the Brooks Range. I can't explain it, but I've always been fascinated by it for some reason. This will be my 50th birthday present to myself (if I go). I hate to spend the money, but I know that I'll never get a hunt cheaper.
 
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I spent 10 days in late August/early September about 5 miles south of the divide last year. Each of the four bears (a mother with two cubs and a youngish male) we saw had beautiful coats on them.


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Thanks for the feedback. I'm not sure yet of the exact area. I wanted to get some information from the forum before I called and talked to the outfitter. I'll check tomorrow. I've always wanted to hunt in the Brooks Range. I can't explain it, but I've always been fascinated by it for some reason. This will be my 50th birthday present to myself (if I go). I hate to spend the money, but I know that I'll never get a hunt cheaper.


If you get the chance, you better go. If you don't, you're gonna regret it sometime in the future. Maybe not right away but sometime. I just love the Brooks and would spend all of June, July & Aug. there if I could.
Going back to the weather. One year the guide I used to occasionally help out who was located on the south side got frozen in early. He had clients and the lake froze over just enough that the float plane couldn't land. The clients (all dr's.) started complaining and their wives (at home in the Lower-48), began complianing. The Dr's. just HAD to get out. The wives wanted helicopters to go get their husbands. Everybody in camp was fine - plenty of firewood & food but these clowns HAD to get out. The state said "no way to helicopters". To make a long story short, the governor sidestepped F&G and allowed these guys to be helicoptered out WITHOUT any of their gear. They had to pay for the ride and the old man sent their gear & trophies to them after he came out. BTW, they weren't charged for any of this extra time and were allowed to hunt caribou on their own as I recall.
This is just an example of what can occur with the admonishment to be prepared. You'll do fine with your guide. Go for it. Bear in Fairbanks


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Thanks for the feedback. Getting caught in the Brooks Range without a way to get out is a little scary. What's the realistic chances that would happen? A couple of days wouldn't be that bad, but a week or two would be a real issue, and I might not come back to a job.

If I go, I was going on August 15, the day before the fall season opens.
 
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I was there last August. I would LOVE to go back. One of the most beautiful places I have been. The weather: we got temps of 70 and woke up some mornings with ice on the tent.

I am no judge of bear coats, but I liked the one I shot!





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Storm, that's a beautiful bear! I love the two-tone fur of interior/northern bears.

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Storm:

Thanks. That is a really beautiful bear. I'd love to see one like that. How many bears did you see on your trip?

Thanks for the feedback.
 
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Thanks. That is a really beautiful bear. I'd love to see one like that. How many bears did you see on your trip?

Thanks for the feedback.


Only saw three, but don't let that discourage you, I was really on a sheep on and the bear was an added bonus. Can take a look at my trip report here:
http://forums.accuratereloadin.../8521043/m/744106719

If you need a bag carrier let me know, I'm young, in shape and ready to help!


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Storm:

Thanks again. That helps a lot with the terrain. What's the one thing you learned from this trip that I should know?

Thanks for your helpl.
 
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Akshooter, I too spent some time up on the Hulahula hunting sheep with Zeke Schetzel. I was there 8/8/2000-8/17/2000 and 8/17/2001-8/25/2001. The first hunt we had light snow in afternoon of the second day which drove us off the mountain. About midway through the hunt we had a hard blow with light snow which kept us in tent all day. The second hunt was incredible, warm, blue bird weather the whole time. But, the last day fog moved in and we could not get back to Deadhorse so we had to charter by Beaver to Arctic Village, then by six seat Cessna to Fairbanks and from Fairbanks to Anchorage on United Air- with attendant charter costs. The Brooks is really a wild place; I urge TRL to get up there; he won't regret it; its magnificent! There were lots of grizz up there where I was. The most gorgeous bear I ever saw was up there on my second trip in one of the drainages feeding into the west side of the Hulahula. It was a fully mature boar, strawberry blonde in color with dark stocking feet. I did not have a bear license; it would have made a beautiful rug. One of our hunters took a gizz on his last day- after having taken a ram and a wolf.
 
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My son shot this on the north side of the Brooks on Aug 15th last year.

 
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I hunted the Hulahula in 86 & 87. I worked with a Guide named Buster Wassom.
On our way up in 87 Buster crashed in atigan pass. I came through there the next day and saw his cub pancaked in the pass. I got a ride from chandalar shelff to the crash site. By then the troopers had already been there and extracted Busters remains. I did find an intact bottle of his wiskey in the plane and later his frinds and I drank a toast to him from that bottle. Busters demise put an end to my Brooks range expiriance.


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Storm:

Thanks again. That helps a lot with the terrain. What's the one thing you learned from this trip that I should know?

Thanks for your helpl.


A few thoughts:

Be fit, you will probably be doing a lot of walking.

Have good binos, chances are you will be glassing a lot. I had 10 power, which I thought were great.

Take care of your feet, bring foot powder, good socks and make sure your boots are well broken in.

Have a good pack that is comfortable to carry.



Will try to think of a few more tips.


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Aksheep hunter - Nice bear. I sure you are proud of that young man. How old is he?

Storm - Thanks. I've pushing 50, but I'm at the gym 4 nights a week. Lots of cardio stuff. I think I can do the walking and climbing. It the thoughts of a wet, cold hunt that I'm a little worried about. Alaska hasn't been good to me. I went on a mountain goat hunt a few years back and got to hunt a total of one and half days out of 7, the weather was so bad.
 
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No garenties anywhere in AK but If I were to pick a place that would have the best chance at good weather it would be the brooks in Aug.


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TRL, he just turned 12, will be 13 this Summer. as a matter of fact, we were there with "Storms GSP" we met him right before we left, we had a great hunt, i'm going back next year, because this year I'm doing the Alaska Range.
 
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Prepare for some cold, snowy weather but don't be suprised if it's mild and wonderful. It is a great place.
who is the outfitter?


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I also highly recommend going on that hunt. I've been to the Brooks about 6-7 times and have always enjoyed myself. There's some beautiful grizzlies to be had up there and the chance at a nice caribou is good too.

The Brooks is one of my most favorite places in Alaska to hunt and Iplan on going back there soon.


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I'm sure your son will remember that hunt as long as he lives. I can still remember my father and I on our first whitetail hunt in western Pennsylvania. It was almost 38 years ago, but it seems like yesterday.
 
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Thanks. I'm waiting to hear from my boss to make sure I can take off work. If that works out, I think I'm going.
 
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It looks like I'm going to take the hunt. The outfitters name is Phil Byrd. The company is called Arctic North Guides. Has anyone used them? I need to send in the deposit soon, so any feedback would be appreciated.

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I've never heard of them but after looking at their website, they seem legit. I'd contact them and get some references and go from there. If I may ask, how much of a discount are you getting on this hunt? I see this hunt runs about $12,500.


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The cost is $7K. That includes the bush flight in, and a caribou. I'm using a booking agent. He says this is as good as it gets in the Brooks. I really hate to part with the money, given how bad the economy is, but this seems like too good of a deal to turn down. I hope I don't regret it.

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Good for you & congrats. I know nothing about the outfit either but I'd agree that's a good price, especially if the bush plane & a caribou are thrown in. Just from the price, I'd guess they do their own bush flying.
Keep us posted when you get back & enjoy.
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Thanks. Yes, they do their own flying, so that's a real advantage if the weather gets bad. They will have at least one plane in camp at all time.

This is Dennis Reiner's old area. He sold it a few years back, but the new guy kept all of his guides.
 
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That is a good deal, i'd say you done good but the end of hunt report will tell the whole story and I hope it is a happy one for you! Good luck!!


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Ask if the outfitter has an exclusive Federal USFWS concession or does he hunt the open state lands where ever licensed guide in the state is free to take as many hunters as they want?
That most certainly will affect the overall quality ( or at least success rate) of your hunt.


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Thanks. I'm not sure if he has exclusive rights or not. The booking agent has booked this hunt for 20+ years, with really good success. We'll see what happens.
 
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That is a great deal, you are smart to take advantage of it. 458 win's advice is good.

File a hunt report when you get back. Be safe.


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Thanks. I had no intention of going hunting this year, but this is too good an opportunity to pass up. I hope the weather cooperates.
 
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I think you'll be ok in late August though I have seen snow in mid August before. Bring good rain gear and a great attitude and you'll have an awesome hunt.


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Very few guides have exclusive areas. Most of the rams you see coming out of the Brooks come from the open areas. Some guys that have exclusive areas like to tout that fact like it is a guarantee. It is not. If the guide is willing to work, then the open areas are fine. If a guide is lazy, even an exclusive use permit will not produce rams.

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Thanks for the info. I'm going to hunt grizzly's. Any info on them in the Brooks would be appreciated.

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TRL,

I have seen grizzly's every time I have hunted the brooks (3 times). I was always sheep hunting, and the bear was secondary or not part of the plan at all. Some areas have very restrictive quotas, etc., and many guides reserve these as an add on for their sheep clients. This is far from a universal statement, however.

I never really researched guides just for a grizzly hunt in the brooks. I've seen some great bears there, but also lots of empty country without a bear in sight. They are not behind every bush.

Good luck on your hunt.

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Thanks.

I know grizzly hunting is never easy. I leave on August 16. It's coming up fast !!!
 
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I just got back on Saturday. What an adventure!
I did manage to get a grizzly on the 8th day of the 10 day hunt. It wasn't a huge bear, but I was really happy with it. It's a light blonde color and the fur is incredible.

Thanks to everyone for the information and advise. It was very helpful.
 
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I just got back on Saturday. What an adventure!
I did manage to get a grizzly on the 8th day of the 10 day hunt. It wasn't a huge bear, but I was really happy with it. It's a light blonde color and the fur is incredible.

Thanks to everyone for the information and advise. It was very helpful.


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