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Is the traditional 458 Winchester 510 gr soft nose load reliable for stopping a charging brown bear? Is it too soft to reliably spine one, or should one use the Hornady soft nose load? Any others with experiance please reply.


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Phil should be out guiding for moose this time of year, may be a while for a response


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Yes the 510 has beyond ample jacket for even the biggest of bears. Leave the solids for cape buff and elephant.


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My client got lucky and killed a very nice 69 ( and a half - we couldn't make it 70) bull. So am back in and out of main camp.



YES, the old Win 510 softs are absolutely great for stopping bears.


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Phil, I thought you were saving that one for me? Oh, yeah....I forgot the money part. :-)
 
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My daughter and her bow hunter are working on a larger one.


Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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My daughter and her bow hunter are working on a larger one.

Phil, they should have good luck on that stalk. A moose with a bigger rack than the one you took couldn't hold his head off the ground for too long!
 
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That is an extra nice one. Sure wish next September would hurry up and get here so I can go after mine. I have a plain wall that needs something hanging on it.
 
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Phil, wondering which bullet you prefer in the .30-06 for Bear and large game in general . . . ?
 
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My favorite 30 caliber bullet for virtually everything is the 200 gr Partition but if specifically hunting bears I usually load the 220 gr Partitions.

A week ago I had to stop another bear that my client wounded. A single 500 gr Swift from my 458 Win put it down.



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Nice bear Phil! Thanks for the info.
 
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