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10 September 2011, 06:08
gbanger
Question for Phil
Is the traditional 458 Winchester 510 gr soft nose load reliable for stopping a charging brown bear? Is it too soft to reliably spine one, or should one use the Hornady soft nose load? Any others with experiance please reply.


Gpopper
10 September 2011, 06:50
Abob
Phil should be out guiding for moose this time of year, may be a while for a response


Jim

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12 September 2011, 23:42
Akshooter
Yes the 510 has beyond ample jacket for even the biggest of bears. Leave the solids for cape buff and elephant.


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15 September 2011, 21:17
458Win
My client got lucky and killed a very nice 69 ( and a half - we couldn't make it 70) bull. So am back in and out of main camp.



YES, the old Win 510 softs are absolutely great for stopping bears.


Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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17 September 2011, 00:03
Biebs
Phil, I thought you were saving that one for me? Oh, yeah....I forgot the money part. :-)
17 September 2011, 03:27
458Win
My daughter and her bow hunter are working on a larger one.


Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
Phil Shoemaker
Alaska Master guide
FAA Master pilot
NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com
17 September 2011, 06:12
Biebs
quote:
My daughter and her bow hunter are working on a larger one.

Phil, they should have good luck on that stalk. A moose with a bigger rack than the one you took couldn't hold his head off the ground for too long!
17 September 2011, 15:12
Dwight
Phil
That is an extra nice one. Sure wish next September would hurry up and get here so I can go after mine. I have a plain wall that needs something hanging on it.
02 October 2011, 22:40
DWright
Phil, wondering which bullet you prefer in the .30-06 for Bear and large game in general . . . ?


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15 October 2011, 22:40
458Win
My favorite 30 caliber bullet for virtually everything is the 200 gr Partition but if specifically hunting bears I usually load the 220 gr Partitions.

A week ago I had to stop another bear that my client wounded. A single 500 gr Swift from my 458 Win put it down.




Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
Phil Shoemaker
Alaska Master guide
FAA Master pilot
NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com
16 October 2011, 23:58
DWright
Nice bear Phil! Thanks for the info.


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