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Just friendly furry creature. doing what friendly furry forest creatures do. A brown bear killed a hiker in Eagle River. A man searching for him was mauled. Anchorage Daily News ^ | 20 June, 2018 | Matt Tunseth, Alaska Star - Michelle Theriault Boots, ADN Posted on 6/21/2018 3:43:38 PM by marktwain Update, 7 p.m.: We’ve posted a new story with updated information: Man killed, member of search party injured in Eagle River bear attacks ▶ Play Update, 4:10 p.m.: What Anchorage police described as an aggressive brown bear believed to have killed an Eagle River man and suspected of badly injuring another man had not been found as of Wednesday afternoon. Biologists with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game searched for the animal earlier on Wednesday. As of 4 p.m., no one was in the field but biologists were putting together a plan for what to do next, said department spokesman Ken Marsh. The body of Mike Soltis, an Eagle River man missing since Monday, was discovered in a brushy area close to the end of Hiland Road in Eagle River late Wednesday morning. A member of the search party looking for him was mauled by a brown bear close to where the man's body was discovered. The searcher, who was hospitalized with what police described as serious injuries to his leg, wasn't immediately identified. "It appears the brown bear was protecting the body (of Soltis) when it attacked a member of the search party," police wrote. (Excerpt) Read more at adn.com ... | ||
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Going unarmed into the bush - x2? Yet another reason that nominating candidates for the Darwinian 'Unfittest Human of The Month' Award never gets old. Like that numbnutz who recently got himself mauled trying to take a 'selfie' with a black bear. Jeez-Louise, ... you couldn't make this shit up. All The Best ... | |||
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I knew it wouldn't be long before P-Diddy and AJ would pipe up to claim this was a case of bunny huggers or anti-gunners getting what they deserved. You guys need to get a room. Dave | |||
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Dude, seriously? You have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure this one out? Larry Holmes could figure it out. Did you read the reports? All The Best ... | |||
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And you need to get back to reality. Just shoot the frickin' bear. Facts are facts: it's killed one, injured one. Tasted human blood. No time for Mary Poppins hand-wringing. Nope, my vote is to get the Phil-meister involved. Someone experienced at putting down bad bruins. The line's been drawn. Now it's O.K. Corral time. That's how we'd handle it in Texas. All The Best ... | |||
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It’s tasted blood.....crap. I hope no other bears taste blood. We’d all be doomed. Unless of course....it was in Texas I guess. Then we’d all be saved. | |||
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If you have read or studied any thing about predators that turn to man eating. They have to find out some way the humans are food and not to be feared. So the reference to tasting blood is human blood. So once a predator realizes that human blood is as good as other blood they are more likely see them as a food source instead of something to run away from. Unlike early India and Africa where man-eaters could rack up hundreds of victims. We kill them ASAP so they can't develop that bad habit. That is one of the main reasons we don't have a lot of man eaters North American. A lot of people were armed with firearms and we reduced the number of large predators. Then if any caused problems they were taken out of the gene pool shortly. | |||
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Sorry I told a joke. It won’t happen again. Since I’m not studied up on worldwide man eaters, have their ever been any omnivores that became man eaters of more than one incident? | |||
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Bear doing what a Bear needs to do to survive, they are higher in the food chain than us and they have survived for ions doing what they do, therefor defend yourself or stay out of their reach. Yes some animals turn into maneaters maybe as a result of old age or injury and they no longer can go after their normal prey. NRA Life Member, ILL Rifle Assoc Life Member, Navy | |||
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Ignorant reporters- Brown bear inland as far North as Eagle Rive-NO A Grizzly-YES. Bears are not destroyed in Alaska because of peoples ignorance. The humans trespassed into the bears domain. Sucks to be at the wrong place at the wrong time X2. 2 less idiots to trespass ever again! | |||
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Another old wife's tales that animals only turn into man-eaters because they can no longer chase their normally prey. Plenty of cases healthy predators eating humans. The anti's would like you to believe other wise but is simply not the case in all man eaters. Armed humans are the highest end of the food chain. If it wasn't so why do we need all the laws protecting bears from humans. Even the best predators get killed and eaten once in awhile. Unarmed humans do not have very impressive natural weapons and are fairly easy prey for the larger predators. We can't run real fast, very little claws and not very big teeth. No hair, no claws or teeth can't run very fast soft and pink. But give us weapons we well if we don't have laws to stop us wipe every big animal off the face of the earth. All the world is ours the large predators live here at our pleasure. | |||
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Humor like sarcasm on internet is some times hard to interpret. | |||
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must be why there are no griz left in Texas - they got O.K. Corraled rest easy tonite boys... for those lagging behind, that was sarcasm mixed with humor | |||
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Obviously a predatory attack. Don't think I'd let one of those big bears near enough to use bear spray. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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That's the question how close is to close. A lot depends on how the bear is acting or behaving. Then it depends on the type of bear black bears tend not to have such a rushing attack as grizzly bears do. The trouble is we can not read a bear's mind. No matter how much one thinks he knows about animals. All of a sudden they do something that disagrees with your thinking. I seen in well trained horses and dogs. It seems as soon as one start bragging on them they can make you look stupide. Let alone trying to figure out what wild animal is thinking. | |||
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Sorry guys, but somehow I think Alaska Game and Fish will get it right. They live there after all.... As to the second guy getting hit, odds are better for some kind of accident than a bear hitting you. They went looking for a missing guy, not looking for a predatory bear. Most bears want no part of people. As to this bear, well guarding a kill- sounds to me like a potential maneater, but I'm not a bear expert. If it was a Lion or Leopard, I would say yes, but I'm not as up on bears- and they are omnivores not exclusive carnivores so its not apples to apples here. | |||
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No one knows the details and cause of this unfortunate incident. We can only speculate. But the fact that the bear seems to have left the area indicates it was not starving and it may never pose a problem again. They are intelligent creatures however and some more tolerant of humans than others. Let's hope this was a one-of incident . Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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No reasonable person would doubt that your 'bear ID' acumen is superior to that of the average News Media idjit.
No, bears are shot and killed when they attack armed humans; unarmed humans are mauled or killed - and afterward, having tasted blood, the bear comes to see them as a food source, although ones that scream and thrash a lot while being chewed on.
Do bears have property rights? Did this bear post 'No Trespassing' signage around its property lines? Bears may exhibit 'territorial instinct,' but they have no defined 'domain rights' legally assertable against humans who are otherwise where they have a right to be, say, like hikers or snowmobilers on a backcountry trail. Perhaps in a Zoo setting the 'trespass' reference would be appropriate, such as where the typical urban moron thinks getting a 'selfie' with the Zoo's new Grizz would increase his 'Like' count on FaceBook, and so climbs over the fence and into the bear's cage where he is promptly killed, thereby becoming another statistic favoring the Darwinian premise.
No doubt, but that happens to innocent folk all the time in Chicago, L.A., and Cleveland, all of whom were usually unarmed when attacked.
Two less idiots, no doubt, but hardly trespassers, and the second victim was a putative rescuer of the first. That said, this incident serves as yet another lesson for those venturing into areas where the big bruins roam: bring 'enough gun.'
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That explains why there are no grizzlies left in Texas Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Or in a lot of their former habitat. | |||
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Phil, I read that guy's post as well. Despite my best efforts, I just can't find anything of substance in his comments. Sort of like all of his other comments on this forum. Seems he speaks (or writes) just to entertain or "pleasure" himself. I think there is a word for that! If he's not careful, he's going to go blind soon! | |||
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Something doesn't add up. Texans can eradicate every last bear in Texas, but can't put a dent in the pig population, nor snakes either | |||
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Nor illegal immigrants either. I think the old Texans must have been tougher Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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We will swap you our snakes, pigs and illegal immigrants for your bears. Deal?? That is about a 10,000-1 exchange rate. Heck of a deal. The bears will just have to learn to like catfish in lieu of salmon. We might even assume the freight!! EZ | |||
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