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Red dot sights legal in Alaska?
21 October 2005, 02:08
SnowwolfeRed dot sights legal in Alaska?
Before I buy a couple of these I better make sure we are allowed to use them. The regs seem a little confusing (who would of fiqured, haha). But the red dots do not project a laser. Does anyone in Alaska know or sure?
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
21 October 2005, 02:50
458WinAccording to our local Trooper/Game warden as long as the light is not projected on the target it is legal.
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
Phil Shoemaker
Alaska Master guide
FAA Master pilot
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www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com 21 October 2005, 03:19
SnowwolfeThanks Phil. I want to try one on my Guide rifle and my S&W 500.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
21 October 2005, 06:26
Collinsquote:
Originally posted by Snowwolfe:
Thanks Phil. I want to try one on my Guide rifle and my S&W 500.
I got a cheapie and blew it up on my .44 contender.
I also have a Loopy CQT that I think would be a FANTASTIC DG scope, 1x-3x power circle dot with illumination, not cheap tho' and TINY 14mm objective, works ok in the twilight(?), YMMV
Best of luck
21 October 2005, 08:02
ovisSnowwolfe,
You might want to take a look at Trijicon "red dots" and their Accupoint scopes.....super bright, hell for stout, no batteries.
Joe
Where there's a hobble, there's hope.
21 October 2005, 08:08
SnowwolfeThe pistol shooters recommend the Ultradots and they are the only ones that come with a lifetime warrnty. Plus they go for about $120 and the Aimpoints are like $350. The Aimpoints have a 10 year warranty.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
21 October 2005, 08:54
akplsquote:
Originally posted by 458Win:
According to our local Trooper/Game warden as long as the light is not projected on the target it is legal.
This is what I have been told also.
21 October 2005, 11:36
Rayquote:
Originally posted by Snowwolfe:
Before I buy a couple of these I better make sure we are allowed to use them. The regs seem a little confusing (who would of fiqured, haha). But the red dots do not project a laser. Does anyone in Alaska know or sure?
It's legal as far as i know, since it does not project a light over the game you are hunting. Now, an infrared scope, night vision, etc. may be illegal I would think. A red dot does not offer any advantage, since it does not make the target clearer. Artificial light (car lights, flashlight, spotlight, etc.) is very illegal for hunting, however.
I use Red Dot sights on my pellet pistol and on a S&W .22LR pistol I use for grouse hunting. As you may know, only a few Red Dot sights (the expensive ones) use any magnification, and this is only 1x. Battery life is short, specially if you forget to turn it off, but you can always carry a spare (just in case) if hunting for over two weeks.
21 October 2005, 15:12
ovisSnowwolfe,
I'm not sure if you were answering me or not, but the "red dots" that Trijicon make are the Reflex and the Armson OEG....the Accupoints are full size, self illuminated scopes. They're legal up here.
Joe
Where there's a hobble, there's hope.
21 October 2005, 17:32
p dog shooterWhat I have found with the battery powered ones in that the batterys go out at the wrong time.
21 October 2005, 19:04
Collinsquote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
What I have found with the battery powered ones in that the batterys go out at the wrong time.
Yep. I find the goblins seem to turn them on WHILE they're in the safe, (dam them all) That's one of the reason I like the illuminated reticle even with no power at all there's still something to shoot at.
21 October 2005, 22:00
boom sticki looked at the aimpoint 2 moa no magnification and thought it was ideal. you can crank up the brightness real high so it will stand out more if you need it and it will last something crazy like 60,000 hours on the batery...the military uses them so you know it is tough and not rinkydinky
21 October 2005, 22:49
SnowwolfeI ordered the Ultradot 4moa in 30mm tube. They cost $135 delivered anywhere in the USA and they are the only ones that come with a total lifetime warranty. Seems to be the dot of choice for the bullseyes shooters. Hell, I spent that much on dinner out with the wifey before. It is worth the gamble.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
25 October 2005, 09:02
mmconcolor--- Widening out the topic a little .
Recently did some research on your subject .
Looked through several Red-Dots in Gun Stores , etc .
Then I got to EO Tech's Holosight , that did it , -- I now own my first , and if I could afford it , I'd have at least another ( they're a little pricey ) .
If very rapid target aquisition is a high priority , I , personally would go with an EO Tech . --- They also make the Bushnell , which is a little cheaper and uses the same exact technology .
I've got a near instinctive imperative to squint or close one eye while sighting . --- I admire those who shoot with both eyes open , and recognize the reasons why .
With the red dots I still catch myself squiting down that weak side eye , -- ( something about peering through a tube of any length , I guess .
But with the EO Tech or Bushnell Holo , --- for the first time in my life , Hoo Ha , -- I can shoot with both eyes open . In fact it's dead natural to keep both eyes open .
-- It's like looking through a window . -- You don't even see the frame around the window .
Man , -- I'm high on that Sight !
-------------- MMCOUGAR .
NRA Benefactor Member
---- 2nd Amend. -- They could have said , " The Right of Such a Militia " ; ----- But they didn't , they said " . . . . . The right of the PEOPLE " .
25 October 2005, 13:50
AKJDIt'll be interesting to see how it holds up to the 500 S&W.
25 October 2005, 18:54
D99Aimpoint is the way to go.
If an Aimpoint can hold up well enough on a Squad Automatic Weapon to be our sighting system it's tough enough for anything.
08 November 2005, 01:22
JudgeSharpeHello the campfire:
Just a question from one who does not or fish hunt in Alaska- on a bear protecton gun, NOT USED FOR HUNTING, but only for possible protection against large and grumpy bears while fishing or another is hunting say in the hands of a guide, would a red dot projection sight such as a lazer sight be legal? I am thinking of fast target acquisition in the nature of express sights to stp charging bears.
Idle curiosity-
Judge Sharpe
Is it safe to let for a 58 year old man run around in the woods unsupervised with a high powered rifle?
08 November 2005, 01:47
boom stickfrom my understanding a projected lazer is illegal but not that you would mind in that situation...but an aimpoint does not project light on the target itself. my glock has a laser but in the daylight and hunting situations it is almost useless and inferior compared to the hologhrahic dot system you will spend too much time trying to find the dot but just hold up the rifle in the shooting position and its right there...no hunting for a little dot. you will feel very confident with it. the added bonus is no paralax issues. where the dot is is where the zero is. it is waaaay coooool

08 November 2005, 04:28
TJJudge Sharpe:
I've got several red dot type sights, including Aimpoint, Armson O.E.G, and a couple others I can't remember the brand of, and the best, a Trijicon ACOG.
It uses no batteries. It amplifies available ambient light in daylight and a tritium insert at night. I have it on a Browning Mod.71, .50 Alaskan. For close in brush shot I love it. You shoot with both eyes open. They are very fast. Your eye automatically goes to the red dot.
The last one I bought cost $310.