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I was just informed that I will have an additional 2 buffalo bulls to be hunted in my Sobbe concervancy area in the Caprivi.

Sobbe is a drier part of the Caprivi, so the hunting must be done early. The buffalo start to move back to the swamps from the drier mopane areas in July, so if someone is interested in hunting a buffalo here, he should be doing it before end July.

I will sell at folloowing rates:
10 day hunt, 2 days travelling (12 days total) hunt for one trophy buffalo bull in Sobbe conservancy.
Average size to be expected: 36-40 inches.
Accommodation is in a permanent tented camp, with cement slab floors, running hot water and flush toilets. 2 beds per tent, each tent has separate bathroom. (2 client tents and 2 PH tents).
Dayfees @ US$ 1000 per hunting day (including 15% VAT), for a total of US$ 10 000.
Trophy fee @ US$ 6 500 for any size trophy bull.
All inclusive therefore US$ 16 500
(No need for expensive charters, you can fly directly to Katima or Vic Falls from Windhoek or to Vic Falls from Johannesburg, and I will come and fetch you there.)


Dates that are currently open:
13 April to 16 May
1-16 July (not perfect date, as buffalo will start to move back.)

The hunt will be unique for the Caprivi, as it will be a pure tracking hunt, and not like hunting in the swamps at all.

Other game that may be added to any of the above hunts (quota permitting):
Leopard US$ 7 500
Kudu US$ 1500
Zebra US$ 1 500
Warthog US$ 400
Duiker US$ 400
Roan US$ 9 500
Hyena US$ 750

Book before 31 January 2011 and receive the following free (Saving of up to US$ 4 700):
• Transfer from Victoria Falls airport and back (Usually US$ 300 one way, plus US$ 500 for the 2 travelling days)
• One non-hunting observer free (Usually US$ 250 per day, so saving of US$ 3 000)
• Firearms permit for transit through Botswana (Usually US$ 100).
Terms and conditions to qualify for the specials:
• 50% of the package booked should be paid by 31st January 2011.
• The other 50% should be paid no later than 60 days prior to the hunt.

Please come by booth no. 31 at the SCI convention to discuss, or send me an email if interetsed.

Ndumo Safaris CC
P.O. Box 31336
Windhoek
+264 81 1285 416 (cell)
361-212-4922 (USA Cell active until 30 January 2011).


Karl Stumpfe
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P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
Cell: +264 81 1285 416
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Posts: 1338 | Location: Namibia, Caprivi | Registered: 11 September 2005Reply With Quote
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Book before 31 January 2011 and receive the following free (Saving of up to US$ 4 700):
• Transfer from Victoria Falls airport and back (Usually US$ 300 one way, plus US$ 500 for the 2 travelling days)
• One non-hunting observer free (Usually US$ 250 per day, so saving of US$ 3 000)
• Firearms permit for transit through Botswana (Usually US$ 100).

Are you saying that you will deduct $4700 off of the quoted price of $16,500?
 
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Well
I have seen some awesome buffs in that area in May have a video of 4 great bulls.

505
I believe that $4700 was inclusive. He was just throwing the guest at no charge thats why there was a savings not a deduct if you did not bring a guest. The way I read it its $16500 with or with out a guest.
The other stuff was included in the $16500 and not added on.
Thats the way I read it but Karl can clarify.
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• One non-hunting observer free (Usually US$ 250 per day, so saving of US$ 3 000)


Great idea Karl. I wish more outfits did this.


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505, Larry (elk88101) has summed it up correct. It is only a saving if you bring an observer.
Thanks Frostbit, I have tried all to stay competitive in the market, and believe this may help.


Karl Stumpfe
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karl@huntingsafaris.net
P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
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Fax: +264 61 254 328
Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264
 
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Karl,
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$6500 trophy fee for buff would have to be a record? would cover the free offers no doubt?
You tell me whether I am too cynical or not?
I would not pay that as a trophy fee on a buff with a 1000 USD daily rate as well especially where 40"is quoted as top end expectation.
 
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Aussie Powder Burner, I normally do not respond to your kind of comments, but seeing that you seem to be a new member, who may not have a clue what he is talking about, here goes...

Maybe you do not know that my actual cost to the conservancy is over $ 8000 per buffalo, and that the Namibian outfitters are paying between 6 and 10 times what outfitters in other comparative countries are paying for the rights to hunt a buffalo? Or that even if I do not shoot that "record- expensive" buffalo, I still pay for it?

Would you prefer that I charge $ 1250/ day (plus 15% VAT) for 10 days, and then $ 2125 for the trophy fee for the buffalo, or would you prefer that the incentive is with me to get you a buffalo?

Namibian outfitters make by far the least money on dangerous game hunts on state or communal land of ANY comparative outfitters in ANY of the countries where these type of hunts can be offered, but I for one will continue to do it, because that is what gives the animals true value, and that is what will have us still hunting on these areas long after the rest has closed to hunting.

So, maybe before you jump on someone's offer again, get your facts straight next time?

Oh, and by the way, one is sold. I am sure the client felt cheated...!


Karl Stumpfe
Ndumo Hunting Safaris www.huntingsafaris.net
karl@huntingsafaris.net
P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
Cell: +264 81 1285 416
Fax: +264 61 254 328
Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264
 
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Karl
My friend watch your blood pressure tell Walter to give you some of the scotch he has hidden under the table.
As for the poster homer
See ya in June my friend

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Larry , What Scotch ? beer


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Walter, you know damn well what scotch!!


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They do not drink booze...WHAT SCOTCH???


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Economics is supply and demand as we know.
There will be people with the money who may just want to say they have hunted buff in Namibia? With a cost of $8K per head these are uneconomic compared to the competition in others areas.
FYI for one reason or another I am on my 2nd reincarnation on AR. [3rd time here]every time the site updates my login seems to be lost.
I have hunted several times in Africa starting in 1984 so I am beginning to sound like my grandparents with comments on costs.
My maths could be poor but extra $250 x 10 days = 2500 which would still see a trophy fee of $4K.
I agree with your point of incentive because of high trophy fee but think this would be best applied to Lion rather than buff.
 
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Economics is supply and demand as we know.
There will be people with the money who may just want to say they have hunted buff in Namibia? With a cost of $8K per head these are uneconomic compared to the competition in others areas.
FYI for one reason or another I am on my 2nd reincarnation on AR. [3rd time here]every time the site updates my login seems to be lost.
I have hunted several times in Africa starting in 1984 so I am beginning to sound like my grandparents with comments on costs.
My maths could be poor but extra $250 x 10 days = 2500 which would still see a trophy fee of $4K.
I agree with your point of incentive because of high trophy fee but think this would be best applied to Lion rather than buff.



10 days * 1000 = 10 000 + 6500 trophy fee = 16 500 US (inc VAT) = 16500 US
or

10 days * 1250 = 12500 + 15% VAT 1875 US + 2125 t fee = 16500 US


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This is the competition
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Licenses/Trophy Fees: Buffalo

Daily Rate 10 Days @ $1,450/Day $14,500

Concession Fee ($350/Day X 10 Days) $3,500

License Fees $1,250

Trophy Fees $5,000

Dip & Pack of Trophy $500

(NOTE: Shipping of Trophies is C.O.D.)

5% Botswana Government Surcharge $1,237.50

(Including Botswana Govt. Royalty Fee, Training Levy, Bed night Tax)

12% Botswana Govt. VAT $3,119

Sub total: $29,106
 
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Totally agree with you burner of dust, apparently being AR registered as new claims to be too new to hunting, the bid price if you can call it that, is exorbitant (see offer for M. PIETERS) however congratulate KARL for selling a game.
 
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I don't want to get into a pissing match but I would say that if you're going to try to say an outfitter is charging too much, you need to stay in the same country. Tanz and Zim are going to be expensive no matter what, and Caprivi hunts are going to be in between Zim and Tanz/Zim. Just looked at anothen Namibian's website, and his buffalo trophy fee was $3125 in 2009 ($17,000 package for a 7 day hunt just daily rate and trophy fees at that time).


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That package would have to make Botswana the most expensive for a buffalo hunt surely?
$29K without charter fees?
Mark Young Tanzania offer would give 2 buffalo; and observer and most likely the cost of charter for those $?
 
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That package would have to make Botswana the most expensive for a buffalo hunt surely?
$29K without charter fees?
Mark Young Tanzania offer would give 2 buffalo; and observer and most likely the cost of charter for those $?


Certain outfits are able to charge well about the going rate. My belief is that they cater to a clientele who can afford to spend tens of thousands extra with out losing any sleep.

Rand's outfit may, or may not, be an example of such an outfit(I'm waffling because I don't care about it enough to start a bitch-fight).

A sure example would be Robin Hurt's outfit. They charge $600 for a black-backed jackal in Namibia!
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I don't want to get into a pissing match but I would say that if you're going to try to say an outfitter is charging too much, you need to stay in the same country. Tanz and Zim are going to be expensive no matter what, and Caprivi hunts are going to be in between Zim and Tanz/Zim. Just looked at anothen Namibian's website, and his buffalo trophy fee was $3125 in 2009 ($17,000 package for a 7 day hunt just daily rate and trophy fees at that time).


Corrected post below:I don't want to get into a pissing match but I would say that if you're going to try to say an outfitter is charging too much, you need to stay in the same country. Tanz and ZAM are going to be expensive no matter what, and Caprivi hunts are going to be in between Zim and Tanz/ZAM. Just looked at another Namibian's website, and his buffalo trophy fee was $3125 in 2009 ($17,000 package for a 7 day hunt just daily rate and trophy fees at that time).


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I tell you this, if you want cheap, go to walmart. Karl's hunts are not for the walmart crowd. Yes Namibia is higher on big 5 hunts compaired to Zim. But they ain't anywhere close to Tanz. Namibia is also a more stable country than Zim at this point. They have so few buffs anyway, what the point in making a compairison beween other countries.


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Sure makes it hard for a guy like Karl to sell a genuine hunt for a realistic price when people post BS static... Roll Eyes


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