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Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Frank,

Why is every picture my client?

Now you have two good questions to answer.

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Frank,

Why is every picture my client?

Now you have two good questions to answer.

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Originally posted by Licky:
I may also use some from Zimbabwe but I don't like it as they always try to steal clients behind your back.

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Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Frank,

Why is every picture my client?

Now you have two good questions to answer.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I did not know that Wendel still booked for Licky nor that any of the clients were Wendels.

I suggest Wendel take that up with Licky, as I had zero knowledge.

I also suggest that AR pull the post if its a problem.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I had zero knowledge

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I did not know that Wendel still booked for Licky nor that any of the clients were Wendels.

I suggest Wendel take that up with Licky, as I had zero knowledge.

I also suggest that AR pull the post if its a problem.


Ray, I suggest you advertise with pictures of your own clients, if you've known Licky for 20 years and have been booking hunts for so long it would seem like a no-brainer to use pictures of your own clients rather than only using pictures of Wendells.

Interesting though, if you've known Licky so long then why didn't you just send Sheephunter there a few years back. Yeah Ray, you have definately proven to me that your the right guy to book an African safari with

Also, I would be willing to bet that the issue here has less to do with the pictures themselves and has more to do with the fact that you were very misleading in the original post. Having read that post myself I would have been under the impression that you actually had something to do with those hunts as you used the word "we" on numerous occassions. Luckily, I know your full of shit where others still might be inclined to take your word for it. I am sure that this is why Wendell was questioning the pictures and the original post.

Being the gentleman that Wendell is I doubt he will raise a stink about it but its yet more proof to the people that see right through your Louis L'Amour/Peter Hathaway Capstick/John Wayne dimestore cowboy fantasy world persona that you really are an absolute legend in your own mind

Whats even more incredible to me is that Ray and I actually agree on something!!!


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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I had zero knowledge



Ray, You finally tell the truth about something and I could not agree with you more

Drummond

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I did not know that Wendel still booked for Licky nor that any of the clients were Wendels.

I suggest Wendel take that up with Licky, as I had zero knowledge.

I also suggest that AR pull the post if its a problem.

Ray, I suggest you advertise with pictures of your own clients, if you've known Licky for 20 years and have been booking hunts for so long it would seem like a no-brainer to use pictures of your own clients rather than only using pictures of Wendells.

Interesting though, if you've known Licky so long then why didn't you just send Sheephunter there a few years back. Yeah Ray, you have definately proven to me that your the right guy to book an African safari with

Also, I would be willing to bet that the issue here has less to do with the pictures themselves and has more to do with the fact that you were very misleading in the original post. Having read that post myself I would have been under the impression that you actually had something to do with those hunts as you used the word "we" on numerous occassions. Luckily, I know your full of shit where others still might be inclined to take your word for it. I am sure that this is why Wendell was questioning the pictures and the original post.

Being the gentleman that Wendell is I doubt he will raise a stink about it but its yet more proof to the people that see right through your Louis L'Amour/Peter Hathaway Capstick/John Wayne dimestore cowboy fantasy world persona that you really are an absolute legend in your own mind

Whats even more incredible to me is that Ray and I actually agree on something!!!

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I had zero knowledge

Ray, You finally tell the truth about something and I could not agree with you more

Drummond

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Drummond,

You have a problem with Ray, please take it up with him personally off line.

I don't have any wish to see another groundless witch hunt as happened in the past.

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Drummond,

You have a problem with Ray, please take it up with him personally off line.

I don't have any wish to see another groundless witch hunt as happened in the past.

Saeed,

"Groundless witch hunt"? I've never felt that calling a spade a spade was groundless or constituted a witch hunt but I'll agree to disagree.

Was I over the top on ocassion? Probably so and that reflects poorly on me. I guess I dont tend to "forgive and forget" when a man threatens to show up at my house for a "west texas shootout" as Ray put it. I take any kind of threat very seriously, especially one that comes from some lunatic that blows a gasket on an internet forum because somebody disagreed with him and threatens to show up at his home, where his wife and daughter live to have some kind of "shootout" like they did in western novels.

That being said, its your website and I respect that so I will refrain from pointing out the obvious as it regards to Ray in the future.

Happy hunting,

Drummond

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I also know about the time he started his attacks on me that I had just been swindled out of about $40,000 by a friend of his from Midland, on a hunting deal and I had to pay that $40,000 back to my clients, and then a year later I hunted them sans my commission to help make things right for them. That persons name was Darron Proctore, and I was in the process of sending him to prison, when his mama jumped in and paid me my money..

Then Lindsey gets a bunch of his personal butt buddies that we had never heard of before he showed up to come on AR and other places to stir up shit and it becomes a witch hunt. His personal hired guns, then the feeding frenzy starts.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I have tried to stay out of this shit, but Lindsey Drummond is a counterfiet phony..He, in the beginning past himself off as a game biologist, and he has no credentials, he said he was a gun writer and he has only written one article in a Texas Newspaper..He claims to be a booking agent, yet he has never advertised, he has no booths at any shows, he has no business name, he doesn't even have a shingle hanging over his door! He had a guy he knew in Mexico at one time that he said he was a guide for, but the man told me that Lindsey was only an aquintence and he allowed him to bring some paying hunters to his ranch, but didn't pay Lindsey to guide or allow him to hunt..Now Lindsey says he is booking for some guy in Mexico and has some nice pictures, I dont' know about that.

I know that when all this started he was the one that challanged me on the deer in the Midland Odessa area, and I offered to set him up for a free trip to the ranches to see for himself..I set that meeting up with DK Boyd, Lindsey never took advantage of that meeting or opertunity..

I also know about the time he started his attacks on me that I had just been swindled out of about $40,000 by a friend of his from Midland, on a hunting deal and I had to pay that $40,000 back to my clients, and then a year later I hunted them sans my commission to help make things right for them. That persons name was Darron Proctore, and I was in the process of sending him to prison, when his mama jumped in and paid me my money..

Then Lindsey gets a bunch of his personal butt buddies that we had never heard of before he showed up to come on AR and other places to stir up shit and it becomes a witch hunt. His personal hired guns, then the feeding frenzy starts.

He has tried his best to damage my business and destroy me, which is ridiculas as I have been in this business way to long for some smart ass kid to hurt me, and besides I don't have to worry about anyway, I have enough base customers to last me the rest of my career in the hunting business, and can retire anytime I want, and have almost done so as a matter of fact.

Its all bullshit on the internet these days with a few picky assholes and a few trolls, that ruin things for everyone..


It is basically a bunch of shit, and that is why I chose to just walk away from it and thats what I am doing until this came up.

I have the emails from Licky, I sent them to Wendell..Where it goes from here I don't really care.

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Originally posted by ForrestB:

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I have tried to stay out of this shit, but Lindsey Drummond is a counterfiet phony..He, in the beginning past himself off as a game biologist, and he has no credentials, he said he was a gun writer and he has only written one article in a Texas Newspaper..He claims to be a booking agent, yet he has never advertised, he has no booths at any shows, he has no business name, he doesn't even have a shingle hanging over his door! He had a guy he knew in Mexico at one time that he said he was a guide for, but the man told me that Lindsey was only an aquintence and he allowed him to bring some paying hunters to his ranch, but didn't pay Lindsey to guide or allow him to hunt..Now Lindsey says he is booking for some guy in Mexico and has some nice pictures, I dont' know about that.

I know that when all this started he was the one that challanged me on the deer in the Midland Odessa area, and I offered to set him up for a free trip to the ranches to see for himself..I set that meeting up with DK Boyd, Lindsey never took advantage of that meeting or opertunity..

I also know about the time he started his attacks on me that I had just been swindled out of about $40,000 by a friend of his from Midland, on a hunting deal and I had to pay that $40,000 back to my clients, and then a year later I hunted them sans my commission to help make things right for them. That persons name was Darron Proctore, and I was in the process of sending him to prison, when his mama jumped in and paid me my money..

Then Lindsey gets a bunch of his personal butt buddies that we had never heard of before he showed up to come on AR and other places to stir up shit and it becomes a witch hunt. His personal hired guns, then the feeding frenzy starts.

He has tried his best to damage my business and destroy me, which is ridiculas as I have been in this business way to long for some smart ass kid to hurt me, and besides I don't have to worry about anyway, I have enough base customers to last me the rest of my career in the hunting business, and can retire anytime I want, and have almost done so as a matter of fact.

Its all bullshit on the internet these days with a few picky assholes and a few trolls, that ruin things for everyone..


It is basically a bunch of shit, and that is why I chose to just walk away from it and thats what I am doing until this came up.

I have the emails from Licky, I sent them to Wendell..Where it goes from here I don't really care.

I've got to give you props Ray, that is one of the best all-encompassing tirades I've ever read.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Ray,

I have followed the spat with you and drummondlinddey over the years. If it was just an isolated incident, I would blow it off. But you have made your own bed with the way you publicly criticize your customers. It just isn't smart.

Hint: my next hunt is booked with Wendell.

Saeed: I personally never saw the witch hunt. If you think there was one, take a poll. My guess is Ray has few fans besides you. If you don't care about how the majority feels, then ban Drummond. It is your playground.

But at least be fair - if Atkinson gets to post a tirade, we should at least get equal entertainment value from the other party.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Ray,

I have followed the spat with you and drummondlinddey over the years. If it was just an isolated incident, I would blow it off. But you have made your own bed with the way you publicly criticize your customers. It just isn't smart.

Hint: my next hunt is booked with Wendell.

Saeed: I personally never saw the witch hunt. If you think there was one, take a poll. My guess is Ray has fewer fans than you might think. If you don't care about how the majority feels, then ban Drummond. It is your playground.

But at least be fair - if Atkinson gets to post a tirade, we should at least get equal entertainment value from the other party.

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quote:
Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Ray,

I have followed the spat with you and drummondlinddey over the years. If it was just an isolated incident, I would blow it off. But you have made your own bed with the way you publicly criticize your customers. It just isn't smart.

Hint: my next hunt is booked with Wendell.

Saeed: I personally never saw the witch hunt. If you think there was one, take a poll. My guess is Ray has fewer fans than you might think. If you don't care about how the majority feels, then ban Drummond. It is your playground.

But at least be fair - if Atkinson gets to post a tirade, we should at least get equal entertainment value from the other party.

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Originally posted by Charles_Helm:
Saeed has already asked one member to take this dispute off the board. Maybe that should apply for all?

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Ray,

I have followed the spat with you and drummondlinddey over the years. If it was just an isolated incident, I would blow it off. But you have made your own bed with the way you publicly criticize your customers. It just isn't smart.

Hint: my next hunt is booked with Wendell.

Saeed: I personally never saw the witch hunt. If you think there was one, take a poll. My guess is Ray has fewer fans than you might think. If you don't care about how the majority feels, then ban Drummond. It is your playground.

But at least be fair - if Atkinson gets to post a tirade, we should at least get equal entertainment value from the other party.

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Originally posted by Kamo Gari:

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Ray,

I have followed the spat with you and drummondlinddey over the years. If it was just an isolated incident, I would blow it off. But you have made your own bed with the way you publicly criticize your customers. It just isn't smart.

Hint: my next hunt is booked with Wendell.

Saeed: I personally never saw the witch hunt. If you think there was one, take a poll. My guess is Ray has fewer fans than you might think. If you don't care about how the majority feels, then ban Drummond. It is your playground.

But at least be fair - if Atkinson gets to post a tirade, we should at least get equal entertainment value from the other party.

+4

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Originally posted by Kamo Gari:

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Ray,

I have followed the spat with you and drummondlinddey over the years. If it was just an isolated incident, I would blow it off. But you have made your own bed with the way you publicly criticize your customers. It just isn't smart.

Hint: my next hunt is booked with Wendell.

Saeed: I personally never saw the witch hunt. If you think there was one, take a poll. My guess is Ray has fewer fans than you might think. If you don't care about how the majority feels, then ban Drummond. It is your playground.

But at least be fair - if Atkinson gets to post a tirade, we should at least get equal entertainment value from the other party.

+4