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Originally posted by ChrisTroskie:

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Originally posted by infinito:
Just a curious question, is Mark registered as a South African DG P.H. now if it is advertised that he will be the P.H.?

Love the videos!

Very good question Charl. I was wondering the same thing.

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Originally posted by 2th doc:
Saeed just to set the record straight I have never hunted with Mark nor you for that matter, I was just asking i a cape buffalo inside a fence is any less ornery than on the other side of the wire.
I have had more than one herford bull pound me against the gates when I did not respect them. These were bulls I hand fed with bottles when they were calves.

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Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
2th doc, I don't know saeed, but I have seen MS videos. I don't know the whole story here although I'm thoroughly entertained by this banter. I would random a guess saeed has been burned by this ego he so much opposes. Just my guess.

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Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
2th doc, I don't know saeed, but I have seen MS videos. I don't know the whole story here although I'm thoroughly entertained by this banter. I would random a guess saeed has been burned by this ego he so much opposes. Just my guess.

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:

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Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
2th doc, I don't know saeed, but I have seen MS videos. I don't know the whole story here although I'm thoroughly entertained by this banter. I would random a guess saeed has been burned by this ego he so much opposes. Just my guess.

Jake, it appears that Saeed suffers from penis envy. He cannot help himself. This has gone on for years. A therapist may help. Maybe not. Just saying.

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:

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Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
2th doc, I don't know saeed, but I have seen MS videos. I don't know the whole story here although I'm thoroughly entertained by this banter. I would random a guess saeed has been burned by this ego he so much opposes. Just my guess.

Jake, it appears that Saeed suffers from penis envy. He cannot help himself. This has gone on for years. A therapist may help. Maybe not. Just saying.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Just imagine, a man who goes hunting and kills his own animals.

And a man who uses his clients as tools to glorify himself.

Which is the one who is a complete jerk with penis envy??

The only people who think the first one is, are those with their heads stuck up the rear end of the second, where they are unable to see the sun shines

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I was just asking i a cape buffalo inside a fence is any less ornery than on the other side of the wire.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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I was just asking i a cape buffalo inside a fence is any less ornery than on the other side of the wire.

2th Doc:

I have been messing around with Buffalo for a good many years, shot and killed many in the process and witnessed many more being dispatched.

In all these encounters I daresay these animals' disposition varies between one set of genes and another; the temperament of a typical Masailand Buffalo for example cannot compare to that of the Selous species (all are Cape Buffalo of course) or to those in Kilombero or Rungwa.

For whatever reason, but most likely due to the incessant harassment from the Masai over "watering rights", the Buffalo that occupy/share this tract of land with this colorful tribe are by and large notoriously known for their ill-feelings towards the human race and will have no hesitation in pressing their point home without too much fanfare.

Seeing we in TZ have no fenced areas or breeding programs for any species of game animals, cannot really compare one that was born and raised in an enclosure and set free at a later stage to bear any ill towards its "foster-parents".

However, any animal, domestic or not, will likely show aggression if molested but with Buffalo, the normally placid bovine instinct would likely be the governing factor to its disposition towards humans if it was pen-raised.

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They were turned loose in a high fence photographic area. At some point, they started charging every vehicle they saw. The owner was a friend of mine. He asked if I would shoot them. I did. Both charged the vehicle.

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Originally posted by infinito:
Just a curious question, is Mark registered as a South African DG P.H. now if it is advertised that he will be the P.H.?

Love the videos!

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MS is not a registered PH in RSA. He will however be present on the hunt as noted.

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They were turned loose in a high fence photographic area. At some point, they started charging every vehicle they saw. The owner was a friend of mine. He asked if I would shoot them. I did. Both charged the vehicle.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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MS is not a registered PH in RSA. He will however be present on the hunt as noted.

Would that be in the capacity of an unarmed "observer/advisor" ?

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Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
Hi Bossie sorry for not replying directly to your post. That aspect is referred to and noted in the first post and I thought it was clear. Sorry if it was not. From the first post:

…for the first time, you can hunt Cape buffalo in South Africa with Mark as your Tanzanian PH*
* (RSA DG PH also present)

MS is not a registered PH in RSA. He will however be present on the hunt as noted. Hope this is what you wanted to understand.

Best always,
Shawn

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Originally posted by cal pappas:

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:

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Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
2th doc, I don't know saeed, but I have seen MS videos. I don't know the whole story here although I'm thoroughly entertained by this banter. I would random a guess saeed has been burned by this ego he so much opposes. Just my guess.

Jake, it appears that Saeed suffers from penis envy. He cannot help himself. This has gone on for years. A therapist may help. Maybe not. Just saying.

Don:
And it will never end. Saeed is on a mission. It will be like this a decade from now.
Cheers,
Cal

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What sort of deranged IDIOT would actually pay to go on such an incredibly stupid so called hunt

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:

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What sort of deranged IDIOT would actually pay to go on such an incredibly stupid so called hunt

Me...

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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I was just asking i a cape buffalo inside a fence is any less ornery than on the other side of the wire.

2th Doc:

I have been messing around with Buffalo for a good many years, shot and killed many in the process and witnessed many more being dispatched.

In all these encounters I daresay these animals' disposition varies between one set of genes and another; the temperament of a typical Masailand Buffalo for example cannot compare to that of the Selous species (all are Cape Buffalo of course) or to those in Kilombero or Rungwa.

For whatever reason, but most likely due to the incessant harassment from the Masai over "watering rights", the Buffalo that occupy/share this tract of land with this colorful tribe are by and large notoriously known for their ill-feelings towards the human race and will have no hesitation in pressing their point home without too much fanfare.

Seeing we in TZ have no fenced areas or breeding programs for any species of game animals, cannot really compare one that was born and raised in an enclosure and set free at a later stage to bear any ill towards its "foster-parents".

However, any animal, domestic or not, will likely show aggression if molested but with Buffalo, the normally placid bovine instinct would likely be the governing factor to its disposition towards humans if it was pen-raised.

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I think, as long as there is an RSA DG Professional Hunters present at all times it makes no difference if MS carries a gun or not.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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I think, as long as there is an RSA DG Professional Hunters present at all times it makes no difference if MS carries a gun or not.

Pretty loose laws both from a hunting and firearms possession/handling perspective if the system allows such a practice as it basically opens doors to non-registered PHs to illegally conduct their business in a legal manner.

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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I think, as long as there is an RSA DG Professional Hunters present at all times it makes no difference if MS carries a gun or not.

Pretty loose laws both from a hunting and firearms possession/handling perspective if the system allows such a practice as it basically opens doors to non-registered PHs to illegally conduct their business in a legal manner.

In what world do you live in where you tell people they can't go armed afield while hunting DG? So only the PH and Hunter should be armed?

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In what world do you live in where you tell people they can't go armed afield while hunting DG? So only the PH and Hunter should be armed?

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:
I am easily confused - so is mark Sullivan the professional hunter on this hunt or is he the celebrity who accompanies the client ?

Mike

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Originally posted by Capt. Purvis:
I do not have a fight in this one but I do appreciate Saeed hosting this free site for all of us to enjoy with no adds. Our host does have a point and I agree with Saeed after reading this article from the Chicago Tribune. Pay attention to what Mr. Sullivan says about other Outfitters and his quote about high fenced hunting.

"I realized at 41 I had a choice: to follow my childhood dream," Sullivan said. "I ventured to Tanzania and East Africa, and literally overnight became a professional hunter. I knew not one word of the local dialect. I didn't hear my wife's voice for 5 1/2 months."

Sullivan reflected on the popularity of his blood-on-the-shoes hunting method -- and the disdain it earns from some of his fellow exhibitors.

"I am the most hated professional hunter the world over," Sullivan said. "Professional hunters hate Mark Sullivan because I do what they don't have the balls to do. I am the only one that willingly walks up to the rogue hippo and great old buffalo and gives them the choice of how they want to die in battle, rather than shooting them to oblivion from safety. I honor these great and noble warriors, offering my life in exchange for what I believe."

"What I am doing in my manner is elevating the sport of hunting to its highest level. Killing makes me sick, but hunting is the greatest adventure left on earth," Sullivan said.

And Sullivan in turn heaped scorn on the private Texas and Florida game ranches advertising in the booths around him quick trophy kills.

"These businesses on display here, where you pay $20,000 for a lion hand-raised as a pup -- this great and noble creature, raised in pens and fed every day in an artificial environment, then trucked out in a cage and released into an enclosure for the gallant client who will claim him as a trophy and enter him in the record book -- I think it's deplorable," Sullivan said

Referring to yourself in third person says a lot about your character. A big part of being a Professional is to act professional. Below is the full Chicago Tribune article.

http://articles.chicagotribune...nal-hunters-big-game