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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by cal pappas:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Saeed:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I respect the opinion of others even if I disagree with them.

I find that the majority of the time, substantially all the time, I am in 100% agreement with you. Generally, I think you are quite reasonable and logical in your conclusions and opinions. If you don't like or don't respect Mark Sullivan, fine . I respect your opinion.

I can't comprehend the constant bashing him that goes on and on. It just seems so out of character for you. I do not understand it. I wish I did. It truly puzzles me.

A lot of the things out of Mark's mouth are schtick. Nothing more, nothing less. I spent a weekend around him on the hunt to benefit Stu Taylor. He is a completely different person than one sees on film.

Now carry on gentlemen.

Well said, Larry. Also, I will look forward to our flight to South Africa on the 6th.

Saeed's endless attacks on Mark show a problem with him. It is very similar to his attacks on the USA and Trump in the political forum. Same stuff that never ends--alomst a jihadist hatred. Other than these two areas it is indeed not like the Saeed we all know and love. I wish there was a way to work the the AR site and find out how many of the anti Mark posts Saeed has made. A few years ago I stopped counting after 300 and I'm sure it is many times that now. There is a deep psychological reason Saeed finds it necessary to bash Mark with out end. Maybe, if there is a psychologist here, thay can shed some light on the why. On the positive side, Saeed gives Mark more publicity than anything else--the posts of others, my atricles in the African Hunter, etc., nothing comes close to keeping the name of Mark Sullivan in the forefront.

Larry, you are always the word of logic and wisdom. Unfortunately it won't work in this arena. Saeed will answer you as well as comment on my post here as he absolutely must have the last word on anything Sullivan.
Cheers,
Cal

Cal

Maybe Saeed has a deep psychological problem with bullshit

This whole promotional shoot is just a glorified expensive version of a Mark Sullivan DVD. Everyone has to make a living and everyone has to pay a mortgage. So shooting a few ear tagged buffalo in South Africa and selling 3 day shoots might be a nice way to make some money.

But I am pretty sure on the high dollar price real Tanzania hunts Mark Sullivan is a professional PH and there is no shtick.

Clients dont pay six figures for a shtick. But the shtick might sell some dvds and maybe a few year tagged buffaloes.

Mike

Just as some of us find all the bullshit coming out of Mark Sullivan and his agent distasteful, others seem to thrive on it.

To each is his own I suppose.

Mike:
It's not BS, it's just marketing. And it has worked!
Cheers,
Cal
PS. Go ahead, Saeed, you last word is required.

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Mike:
It's not BS, it's just marketing. And it has worked!
Cheers,
Cal
PS. Go ahead, Saeed, you last word is required.

It has worked so well that now he has stooped to selling hunts for ear tagged, farmed bred buffalo, and him tagging along as assistant tea boy so the ignorants can brag about being in the same camp as him!

The mind truly boggles at the stupidity of some

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Originally posted by ExpressYourself:

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Originally posted by Bill73:
Mike...My reason for not posting a hunt report on AR regarding Nitro Express Safaris and Mark is probably self-evident by this or any MS thread. Saeed is wound tighter than an idiots watch and his minions are almost just as bad. I don’t need/want to spar with folks when sharing my personal hunt so why bother? I know that others here on AR that have hunted with Mark feel the same way. Instead they just keep re-booking with Mark and enjoy their hunt(s). They simply share the hunt details with their friends and not the public.

You are quite the minion yourself I think,the evidence speaks louder than any BS you type out here,why all the secrecy & no hunt reports ? maybe nobody is proud to have hunted with Mark?

Negative…most business professionals and many private minded folks don’t need the additional headache generated from public forums and many are too busy to joust with clowns my friend. Not suggesting you’re a clown unless the shoes and red nose fit.[/QUOTE]

I am not offended to be called a clown,but knowing what you surely know, about how this offer that you have posted would be received on AR,you went ahead anyways !!! maybe you are the better clown?
A good hunt is a good hunt,some people post about their experience & some do not,it's a personal choice,very understandable,but no reports at all? you must admit is a little out of the norm,money well spent? a good hunt? surely some would spread the good word ?

I understand your question Bill. I have posted this hunt offer on AR and also other locations. The only place that has generated negativity is AR. Elsewhere, those who were interested have asked for more information and those who were not interested simply moved along and have not gone down the road of negativity as seen by a select few here on AR.

That is because the negativity regularly seen on AR regarding anything that is Mark Sullivan is fostered by the non-ending chasing of a personal agenda by Saeed. It is Saeed’s right to do so if he wishes but he looks like and is interpreted as a fool worldwide in hunting quarters. He has to decide if his constantly beating his drum serves a purpose. For me and most others around the world it serves nothing beyond a personal agenda.

This hunt offer is clear, above board, defines who is involved, including the RSA PH that must be present for legal reasons and RSA Outfitter as well. The RSA buffalo are spectacular, the ear tag issue was clarified and debunked, and it is a fabulous value for those who desire to hunt with Mark. It is nothing more or less than what it appears to be.

One only has to read the offer to decide if it is for them to enjoy. Even those who hunt with Mark in Tanzania have seen the value in the hunting opportunity for what it is (and will be) and some have signed-on.

Regarding the lack of hunting reports on AR regarding Mark, as I have said previously I and many others on AR who hunt with Mark regularly do not post hunt reports for the obvious reasons of Saeed’s negativity on the topic.

I believe I have answered all email questions that were pending. For those still contemplating, it looks like we are now down to 5 Cape buffalo hunts remaining for 2017. Thanks for your interest and also the supporting comments as well. I will pass them along to Mark when he returns from Alaska.

Shawn:
If Mark is in Alaska, can he make it to our double shoot on May 6 at the Birchwood shooting range?
Please pass on the info to Mark.
Cal

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Shawn:
If Mark is in Alaska, can he make it to our double shoot on May 6 at the Birchwood shooting range?
Please pass on the info to Mark.
Cal

Hi Cal…I will be sure to get the info to Mark. I know he will be very appreciative of your invitation and would be honored to attend your shoot if scheduling allows. Is this the range located north of Anchorage in Chugiak? Does that still kick-off at 1000 hours?

Yes, 10am on the 6th of May. Birchwood is Chugial--east of Eagle River.
Cal

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Yes, 10am on the 6th of May. Birchwood is Chugial--east of Eagle River.
Cal

Invitation has been passed on as requested Cal.

I have distributed by email the discounted pricing requests/inquiries made by those of you on AR that wanted additional information for Cape buffalo hunts with Mark that are booked by two hunters (or more) at the same time for the five remaining 2017 Cape buffalo hunts. I have also emailed the additional hunting day costs and other specialty hunt costs for those that have inquired.

For those of you that have expressed a desire to book for 2018 RSA Cape buffalo hunts with Mark I am told those discounts will apply if you decide to book/reserve those hunts now as well.

Is there any price difference to the number on they ear tag?

Just checking if one has to pay a premium for the desire to have a low number

The RSA buffalo on these hunts with Mark Sullivan are spectacular (Unlike your personal buffalo picture posted). The ear tag topic was clarified and debunked (This can be found in the hunt offer on page 1, post 23).

These few remaining hunts for 2017 are a fabulous value for those who desire to hunt with Mark. Here is the language from the hunt offer on page 1, post 23:

I guess I should clarify further on the ear tag topic. They stopped using the ear tagging last year. None of the bulls should have an ear tag as any bulls that had one for ID/breeding purposes will have been removed prior to the hunt dates. They are not using them any longer. They are flying the ranch, locating any remaining tagged bulls, sedating the bulls, and then removing the tag.

If it is helpful, here is a link:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...588/m/4991024032/p/1

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Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
The RSA buffalo on these hunts with Mark Sullivan are spectacular (Unlike your personal buffalo picture posted). The ear tag topic was clarified and debunked (This can be found in the hunt offer on page 1, post 23).

These few remaining hunts for 2017 are a fabulous value for those who desire to hunt with Mark. Here is the language from the hunt offer on page 1, post 23:

I guess I should clarify further on the ear tag topic. They stopped using the ear tagging last year. None of the bulls should have an ear tag as any bulls that had one for ID/breeding purposes will have been removed prior to the hunt dates. They are not using them any longer. They are flying the ranch, locating any remaining tagged bulls, sedating the bulls, and then removing the tag.

If it is helpful, here is a link:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...588/m/4991024032/p/1

Does the hole left over from the removed tag cost any extra?

That is an interesting question that you raise. Whenever an ear tagged breeding buffalo is untagged the tag is torn from the ear and does not leave a hole. The torn ear looks just like any other Cape buffalo ear that is torn. I thought some may be unaware and wanted to post the information.

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There are professional hunters who have hunted with Mark previously. As a very recent example just last week I was contacted by a PH asking if Mark would provide some one-on-one training for him and wanted weekly rates to do so.

"one on one training" ..... Really?

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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There are professional hunters who have hunted with Mark previously. As a very recent example just last week I was contacted by a PH asking if Mark would provide some one-on-one training for him and wanted weekly rates to do so.

"one on one training" ..... Really?

May be he wants to be THE SECOND MOST HATED PROFESSIONAL HUNTER BY HIS PEERS

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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There are professional hunters who have hunted with Mark previously. As a very recent example just last week I was contacted by a PH asking if Mark would provide some one-on-one training for him and wanted weekly rates to do so.

"one on one training" ..... Really?

Yes, he is just one of many. Telling that you would think that is unusual.

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Yes, he is just one of many. Telling that you would think that is unusual.

Laughable as there are literally dozens of veteran PHs (living legends) who go about their profession in a very discreet way, in whose shoes MS would like to walk.

I quite frankly do not see what would attract a PH other than an Appy and a very naive one at that, with an IQ of 50 to train "one on one" with MS.

Would it be true to say that by "training one on one" with MS the trainee would get the opportunity of reproducing or re-living those situations of looking the maimed buffalo in the eyes (as in wounded and not shot in the balls) and goading it to charge?

We all know (well, most of us) that the videos produced by Mark are well-planned marketing tools aimed at targeting the fat wallets of a particular group of sponge-headed people (hats off to Mark) who when watching them get all jacked up and make them want to emulate this so-called elite class of hunters?

P.S. I have met Mark in the field several times, talked shop and can frankly say that I found him to be a likeable person; his modus operandi is not my cup of tea but when the shit hits the fan, my balls are no smaller than his.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Yes, he is just one of many. Telling that you would think that is unusual.

Laughable as there are literally dozens of veteran PHs (living legends) who go about their profession in a very discreet way, in whose shoes MS would like to walk.

I quite frankly do not see what would attract a PH other than an Appy and a very naive one at that, with an IQ of 50 to train "one on one" with MS.

Would it be true to say that by "training one on one" with MS the trainee would get the opportunity of reproducing or re-living those situations of looking the maimed buffalo in the eyes (as in wounded and not shot in the balls) and goading it to charge?

We all know (well, most of us) that the videos produced by Mark are well-planned marketing tools aimed at targeting the fat wallets of a particular group of sponge-headed people (hats off to Mark) who when watching them get all jacked up and make them want to emulate this so-called elite class of hunters?

P.S. I have met Mark in the field several times, talked shop and can frankly say that I found him to be a likeable person; his modus operandi is not my cup of tea but when the shit hits the fan, my balls are no smaller than his.

I think THE LEGENDARY PROFESSIONAL HUNTER MARK SULLIVAN means his balls are more spongy - no substance in them - just like the people who hunt with him, and people who he employs to sell his pet cattle shoots

A normal man with any sort of dignity never lowers himself to the point of stating that all his peers lack any courage.

It is a sign of a deranged idiot, too far gone in the head to be considered even sane

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Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
The RSA buffalo on these hunts with Mark Sullivan are spectacular (Unlike your personal buffalo picture posted). The ear tag topic was clarified and debunked (This can be found in the hunt offer on page 1, post 23).

These few remaining hunts for 2017 are a fabulous value for those who desire to hunt with Mark. Here is the language from the hunt offer on page 1, post 23:

I guess I should clarify further on the ear tag topic. They stopped using the ear tagging last year. None of the bulls should have an ear tag as any bulls that had one for ID/breeding purposes will have been removed prior to the hunt dates. They are not using them any longer. They are flying the ranch, locating any remaining tagged bulls, sedating the bulls, and then removing the tag.

If it is helpful, here is a link:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...588/m/4991024032/p/1

What is done with the meat from the bulls killed on this ranch?

I think all the meat belongs to the farmer who raised these cattle!

I never liked the word HARVEST mentioned in any sort of a hunting context.

But here, it fits perfectly!

Farmer HARVEST what they grow

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What is done with the meat from the bulls killed on this ranch?

As on any ranch in RSA the carcass belongs to the farmer who sells the meat to the local butchers.

It is also the reason why these farms/ranches have skinning sheds which look like operating theaters (floor and wall tiles, stainless steel basins, aluminum work tops, staff wearing overalls, boots, etc.) which meet required standards of hygiene as the meat is destined for public consumption.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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What is done with the meat from the bulls killed on this ranch?

As on any ranch in RSA the carcass belongs to the farmer who sells the meat to the local butchers.

It is also the reason why these farms/ranches have skinning sheds which look like operating theaters (floor and wall tiles, stainless steel basins, aluminum work tops, staff wearing overalls, boots, etc.) which meet required standards of hygiene as the meat is destined for public consumption.

Yes, I suspect that is what will happen with this meat.
But has any consideration been given to the human health risks involved with eating animals that have been injected with these tranquilizers?

Typically large mammals are considered UNFIT for human consumption for at least a year after they have been tranquilized.
Research in this area is light due to the difficulties in legally and ethically testing the effects of poisonous substances on living humans.


According to the hunt offer, an end result could be potentially toxic meat sold to unsuspecting customers....

Just another reason I don't like these shooting farms.

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Originally posted by walking buffalo:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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What is done with the meat from the bulls killed on this ranch?

As on any ranch in RSA the carcass belongs to the farmer who sells the meat to the local butchers.

It is also the reason why these farms/ranches have skinning sheds which look like operating theaters (floor and wall tiles, stainless steel basins, aluminum work tops, staff wearing overalls, boots, etc.) which meet required standards of hygiene as the meat is destined for public consumption.

Yes, I suspect that is what will happen with this meat.
But has any consideration been given to the human health risks involved with eating animals that have been injected with these tranquilizers?

Typically large mammals are considered UNFIT for human consumption for at least a year after they have been tranquilized.
Research in this area is light due to the difficulties in legally and ethically testing the effects of poisonous substances on living humans.


According to the hunt offer, an end result could be potentially toxic meat sold to unsuspecting customers....

Just another reason I don't like these shooting farms.

You are forgetting one very simple point.

THE LEGENDARY PROFESSIONAL HUNTER MARK SULLIVAN is just going to walk up to the ear tagged buffalo, and with the required, normal, heavy breathing he is well known for, he will say "HOW WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR EAR TAG TO BE TAKEN OFF? DO I RIP IT OFF, OR USE MY 13 INCH KNIFE TO CUT IT OFF YOUR EARS"

He then turns to the camera, which zooms in as arranged with the cameraman, and he will show the knife, saying "DO YOU KNOW WHY I USE A 13 INCH KNIFE TO CUT OF THE TAGS OF THE BUFFALO?" A bit more heavy breathing, then "BECAUSE THEY DO NOT MAKE A BIGGER ONE"


So here we have a hunt that has been advertised as a proper buffalo hunt with the LEGENDARY PROFESSIONAL HUNTER MARK SULLIVAN.

It turns out it is a farm shoot of an ear tagged, drugged so the ear tag can be removed, pet buffalo with a given name and birth certificate.

What sort of booking agent would go so far as to even dream that there are some stupid, brainless idiots out there that will take up this offer??

The mind truly boggles!

Sorry for my slow email replies…I have been traveling and just returned back to California. All email inquiries have been answered. I will be traveling the next few weeks but will be more connected and responsive. Thanks of your interest!