To all hunting friend

For those of you that are interested in hunting lions Inyala Safaris is the place to hunt.

Lion hunting - location South Africa on the border of the Kalahari and bushveld. Duration of the hunt 5-7days
Lion females $ 6500
Lion males from $ 16500 - $ 34000
Lion combos ( male and female) $ 24500

Daily rate: Dangerous Game
1x1 $850
2x1 $650
Observer $400

Plains Game
1x1 $380
2x1 $350
3 or more $ 300
Observer $250
DAILY RATES INCLUDE

Transportation from the nearest airport, to and from the hunting area.
Services of a licensed professional hunter and 4x4 vehicles.
Accommodation and laundry.
Water, non-alcoholic beverages and alcoholic beverages in moderation.
Preparation and preservation of trophies.
Catering, trackers, Skinners and camp staff.

DAILY RATES EXCLUDE

Hotel costs, if any, before and after the actual safari.
Dip and packing costs.
Trophy fees for all animals killed or wounded. ( except stated animals in a package )
Shipping of trophies to their destination.
Transfers of trophies to taxidermy
Air charters if required
Change of hunting area -$ 125/ hunter –if required
Transfers to and from Johannesburg International Airport and hunting aria: $ 350 / hunter ( except is packages )
o Approx - $ 10 - $ 20 / day for camp staff, trackers and Skinners
o Approx - $ 20 - $ 40 / day for your PH
• Bait fees on cat hunts
• Hiring of firearms - $ 90 / per day
• Ammunition per round less than .375 - $4.00
• Ammunition per round .375 and up - $15.00

Other species available:

Black Wildebeest $ 1000
Blesbuck $ 400
Kudu $2850
Sable $12500
Gemsbuck $1200
Giraffe $3000
Impala $350

Could you please explain what qualifies one Lion from the other to justify the doubling in the trophy fee?

Could this be attributed to one being the typical savannah Lion and the other as the rarer Kalahar1 species?

If I wanted the best that money could buy what would my chances be as I would not settle for second best?

I think it would be a baited hunt - as bait fees are not indicated I should assume the bait will come from the quoted species - the Giraffe on its own should suffice, besides I would only have 7 days to get the job done.

Lastly, what with all the criticism being tossed about on the shooting of Lions under 6 years, pride holders, etc. with which I can well do without, am I to understand that a $34,000 Lion will meet all expectations?

fujotupu

Trophy fees are subjected to the size of the mane, the darkness and density of the mane. The age of the Lion also have great significance in the stance of the pride, therefore the age is an important factor.
Lions have been hunted in Africa for a very long time , therefore the contrrol with permits etc, which makes the trophies that much more rare...
Please drop me a email to info@inyalasafaris.co.za and I will send you a email with the lions what we hunted and you can decide.

At $34000 i would shoot the outfitter if my expectations are not met , unless your expections are to be chased by a Lion , which I will gladly make sure that the Lion sees you first!! Hehehe.. jokes aside .... It will be the thrill of your life !! Nothing beats hunting the king of the jungle !!

Do you have pictures of the available lions.

Why must members of the forum, take such chicken shit swipes at a guy's offering a legitimate hunt, in the appropriate place.

If your not interested, just move along and don't act like schoolyard bullies.

Perhaps, Saeed should only allow hunts offered that meet up to a certain unachievable standard based on AR membership.

Chicken shit being the key word here.


The "move on if not interested" notion only applies to hunts OTHER than lions on this site.
Lion hunts (whether they are fenced or "proper") are fair game here to be ran through the gauntlet of bullshit & innuendo.

Scottyboy
Could be alot of Chicken Shit.
Have you ever been to a lion farm in South Africa??
Thats the main diet they feed these lions
CHICKEN AND LOTS OF THEM.
Stinks like hell around the lion pens.
Larry

+1

Brett

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:

I'd rather not take a side as I dunno what the heck I'm talking about on most topics but in this case, dang it, 505 does come up with some funny ones!

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Originally posted by Thomasjohn:
Do you have pictures of the available lions.

Hi Thomas yes I do have photos of the lions we hunted. If you want more info on these lion please send me an email to info@inyalasafaris.co.za

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Originally posted by elk88101:
Scottyboy
Could be alot of Chicken Shit.
Have you ever been to a lion farm in South Africa??
Thats the main diet they feed these lions
CHICKEN AND LOTS OF THEM.
Stinks like hell around the lion pens.
Larry

HI Larry very nice comment of you, thank you I guess not one of these jokers ever hunted lions on foot in thick bushes, sitting in the blind smelling a pre-bait carcass and fresh guts.

When is the price decided? Before or after the lion is shot? Also, if I book a $20,000 lion, will the ph make sure I don't shoot a $34,000 lion? If I book the combo, will I be shooting a top quality male, or will it be a lesser quality lio ?
Thanks.

mmassey 338

The price is before the hunt and I will hunt with you to make sure you hunt a lion in your price range. I you want to shoot a combo I will send you a indication of how the lions look for combo hunting.

I still have reservations about the time frame (5-7 days) as I have been in several other places on hunts of 16 and 21 days where I have seen many lions but few that made the grade and some that were borderline and therefore reluctantly passed on.
The baiting process as I have experienced is also extremely time consuming and not necessarily a guarantee that all baits will be hit within 24hrs or that any will be hit at all (regardless of the visible signs of lion being present).

Just wondering

We have the following 2x1 specials in South Africa
Lion females 3-4 years $ 4200
Lion female 6 years older $ 5000
Buffalo Hard boss $ 9900
Buffalo Soft boss $ 6000
Buffalo Cows $ 3600
Specials only till October 2012 for more info contact us info@inyalasafaris.co.za

Is there an additional charge to remove the ear-tags or is that included??

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Originally posted by Leopardtrack:
Is there an additional charge to remove the ear-tags or is that included??

Crap posts like this, and that thread called, Big Buff over in the African Forum are what keeps me and I'm sure others from both participating and sharing hunt reports.

It is suppose to be fun, sharing our passion with like minded individuals, not watch people separate into groups and compete for "Forum Big Dog" status. So much for hunting fellowship.

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by Leopardtrack:
Is there an additional charge to remove the ear-tags or is that included??

Crap posts like this, and that thread called, Big Buff over in the African Forum are what keeps me and I'm sure others from both participating and sharing hunt reports.

It is suppose to be fun, sharing our passion with like minded individuals, not watch people separate into groups and compete for "Forum Big Dog" status. So much for hunting fellowship.

The thing is we are not all like minded. There are some that feel it is just fine to raise a cat in a pen and then release it into another slightly bigger pen and then walk up to it and shoot it!!! When you do that I call it collecting not hunting.

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Originally posted by nube:

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by Leopardtrack:
Is there an additional charge to remove the ear-tags or is that included??

Crap posts like this, and that thread called, Big Buff over in the African Forum are what keeps me and I'm sure others from both participating and sharing hunt reports.

It is suppose to be fun, sharing our passion with like minded individuals, not watch people separate into groups and compete for "Forum Big Dog" status. So much for hunting fellowship.

The thing is we are not all like minded. There are some that feel it is just fine to raise a cat in a pen and then release it into another slightly bigger pen and then walk up to it and shoot it!!! When you do that I call it collecting not hunting.

Lets see--

Lions were classed as vermin in Kenya--shoot them all on sight

Now you bait them- thats hunting?--and whats different about a waterhole?

The point is --get off peoples backs--if you don't like it don't do it , but as long as its legal STFU in public.

If you want lions around in 50 yrs better start serving Lion burgers at MickyDs--there sure isn't a shortage of angus-

SSR

Might be time to start a new thread and beat this dead horse till the cows come home.

Steve is right in my opinion but what is most wrong is pissing on someones hunt offer thread.

If you don't like it, leave it alone or voice your opinion in another thread you started.

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Originally posted by nube:

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by Leopardtrack:
Is there an additional charge to remove the ear-tags or is that included??

Crap posts like this, and that thread called, Big Buff over in the African Forum are what keeps me and I'm sure others from both participating and sharing hunt reports.

It is suppose to be fun, sharing our passion with like minded individuals, not watch people separate into groups and compete for "Forum Big Dog" status. So much for hunting fellowship.

The thing is we are not all like minded. There are some that feel it is just fine to raise a cat in a pen and then release it into another slightly bigger pen and then walk up to it and shoot it!!! When you do that I call it collecting not hunting.

Nope, we are not all like minded, BUT.....where has this poster not followed Saeeds rules to a "T", Nobody is forcing you to go shoot a canned lion, so don't. BUT there is obviously a market for it or it wouldn't exist. It's not for me either, but I can refrain from beating on this offer.

And Jim, Thanks.

Hi thank you for all the positive posts and all of you that criticize me on the way I hunt. ALL HUNTING we do is LEGAL. Why there are some people criticize me on how many days you need to hunt a lion, did they never hunt a lion? And why is it that every one thinks all lion hunting in SA are canned, my friend come and hunt a lion with me and see if your so called lion are canned. Why can some people advertise leopards and tell the clients you need about 14days but I can’t hunt a lion in 7 days is there any RULE regarding how may days you need for lion, leopard and buffalo?????

Leopardtrack - I don’t need to remove any ear-tags form any of my animals if you hunt animals with ear-tags feel free to do so.

Nganga and Cross L- Thank you for standing up against Leopardtrack with his post about ear-tags. I always thought that hunting forums are suppose to be fun, share hunts and making friends but I guess I was wrong. I’m very disappointed. I also want to thank you for your comment about the “Big Dog” states I think this is what they try to do. I do not need to impress someone with any status they have the right to use any Outfitter they want, all I do is offering a hunt is that a sin to do so?

Nude – I agree and disagree with you. There are a big difference to raise a cat in a pen of less than 2ha and release it on a 2300ha bushveld farm where he can be self sustained , I do not call that a “slightly bigger pen “ as you stated.

Leopardtrack - I don’t need to remove any ear-tags form any of my animals if you hunt animals with ear-tags feel free to do so.

Good luck with your hunts my friend...I am just having some fun with you!

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Originally posted by Inyala Safaris:
There are a big difference to raise a cat in a pen of less than 2ha and release it on a 2300ha bushveld farm where he can be self sustained , I do not call that a "slightly bigger pen " “ as you stated.

I do. You are releasing a captive animal raised in extremely small quarters into a slightly bigger pen. A lion's natural home range may be up to 400 square kilometers. If I am doing my math correctly, 2300ha is equivalent to 23 square kilometers. This new pen is approximately 17 times smaller than the lion's natural home range. The lion will also not be familiar with this new ground, will not know where cover, water, etc are. He will wander aimlessly until he is shot by the hunter who has already pre-selected which lion to shoot.

This is not a natural hunt. The hunter is shooting livestock, nothing more. It would be equally sporting for the hunter to come and shoot a rodeo bull that was released into the slightly larger pen. At least the rodeo bull would be angry and would put up a fight.

Yes, this type of hunting is legal. I do not particularly have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is representing it as a wild lion hunt. The very idea of choosing via photographs the lion, the king of beasts, that one will "hunt" is simply preposterous!

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Originally posted by Overland:

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Originally posted by Inyala Safaris:
There are a big difference to raise a cat in a pen of less than 2ha and release it on a 2300ha bushveld farm where he can be self sustained , I do not call that a "slightly bigger pen " “ as you stated.

I do. You are releasing a captive animal raised in extremely small quarters into a slightly bigger pen. A lion's natural home range may be up to 400 square kilometers. If I am doing my math correctly, 2300ha is equivalent to 23 square kilometers. This new pen is approximately 17 times smaller than the lion's natural home range. The lion will also not be familiar with this new ground, will not know where cover, water, etc are. He will wander aimlessly until he is shot by the hunter who has already pre-selected which lion to shoot.

This is not a natural hunt. The hunter is shooting livestock, nothing more. It would be equally sporting for the hunter to come and shoot a rodeo bull that was released into the slightly larger pen. At least the rodeo bull would be angry and would put up a fight.

Yes, this type of hunting is legal. I do not particularly have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is representing it as a wild lion hunt. The very idea of choosing via photographs the lion, the king of beasts, that one will "hunt" is simply preposterous!

You have a strange attitude-I disagree with your position--that is an opinion.

However your facts are also wrong, you grossly overstate lion pride home range size in RSA.

http://www.plosone.org/article...journal.pone.0003998
http://www.plosone.org/article...representation=PNG_M


secondly the hunt wasn't represent as a "
wild" hunt
and the OP never said he had pictures of the lions to be hunted--he had pictures of lions that had been hunted--ie trophy pics

5680 ac is not a "slightly bigger pen" you can get lost for a long time in that much bush. What is your experience that leeds you to think that is a small place?

SSR

If you have ever hunted in Africa with a good tracker it doesn't matter where you are. If he sees the track you will get on that animal, not saying their isn't wind involded. Just saying the animal has little chance of escape from a native tracker.

No one here claims these hunts are on wild Lions...feel free to go pet one though if your so inclined,

It won't be the hunters that hunt behind a fence that spell the doom of hunting it will be the idiot "purists" that sink us all.

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Originally posted by Cross L:

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Originally posted by Overland:

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Originally posted by Inyala Safaris:
There are a big difference to raise a cat in a pen of less than 2ha and release it on a 2300ha bushveld farm where he can be self sustained , I do not call that a "slightly bigger pen " “ as you stated.

I do. You are releasing a captive animal raised in extremely small quarters into a slightly bigger pen. A lion's natural home range may be up to 400 square kilometers. If I am doing my math correctly, 2300ha is equivalent to 23 square kilometers. This new pen is approximately 17 times smaller than the lion's natural home range. The lion will also not be familiar with this new ground, will not know where cover, water, etc are. He will wander aimlessly until he is shot by the hunter who has already pre-selected which lion to shoot.

This is not a natural hunt. The hunter is shooting livestock, nothing more. It would be equally sporting for the hunter to come and shoot a rodeo bull that was released into the slightly larger pen. At least the rodeo bull would be angry and would put up a fight.

Yes, this type of hunting is legal. I do not particularly have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is representing it as a wild lion hunt. The very idea of choosing via photographs the lion, the king of beasts, that one will "hunt" is simply preposterous!

You have a strange attitude-I disagree with your position--that is an opinion.

However your facts are also wrong, you grossly overstate lion pride home range size in RSA.

http://www.plosone.org/article...journal.pone.0003998
http://www.plosone.org/article...representation=PNG_M


secondly the hunt wasn't represent as a "
wild" hunt
and the OP never said he had pictures of the lions to be hunted--he had pictures of lions that had been hunted--ie trophy pics

5680 ac is not a "slightly bigger pen" you can get lost for a long time in that much bush. What is your experience that leeds you to think that is a small place?

SSR

+1 Ranges of a desert lion and one in kruger with a lot of food and water will be very different.
If you want to hunt a $ 65- 70 000 lion in Tanzania be my geust but dont begrudge the guy who wants a lion for $ 25-35 000 and is going to hunt it on foot in thick cover.

AR is too elitist sometimes just remember not everyone has your Cheque book. If this is not your hunt shut up and move on.

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+1 Ranges of a desert lion and one in kruger with a lot of food and water will be very different.
If you want to hunt a $ 65- 70 000 lion in Tanzania be my geust but dont begrudge the guy who wants a lion for $ 25-35 000 and is going to hunt it on foot in thick cover.

AR is too elitist sometimes just remember not everyone has your Cheque book. If this is not your hunt shut up and move on.

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AR is too elitist sometimes just remember not everyone has your Cheque book. If this is not your hunt shut up and move on.

Nor does everyone have the same damn attitude toward what constitutes a trophy. Unless or Until, you are the one paying for someone else's hunt, STFU.

Some folks on this site are trying to turn it into an elitist club. well I ain't an Elitist and I ain't the sharpest tack in the box, But, I Can Guaran-Damn-Tee You One Fact, Being An Elitist Hunter Ain't Gonna Change The Anti's Opinion One Bit.

CRAZYHORSECONSULTING

I agree, your dead on.
I hunted a female lion last year in South Africa.
Seen tracks but did not connect till the third day. Hey guess what when she was hit she came on a full charge. I guess they forgot to tell it to roll over and die since it was CANNED HUNT.
Gee is every high fence whitetail and exotic animal a canned hunt? This is like the war on drugs can never win.
Go for the hunt they are fun.
Larry

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Originally posted by elk88101:
CRAZYHORSECONSULTING

I agree, your dead on.
I hunted a female lion last year in South Africa.
Seen tracks but did not connect till the third day. Hey guess what when she was hit she came on a full charge. I guess they forgot to tell it to roll over and die since it was CANNED HUNT.
Gee is every high fence whitetail and exotic animal a canned hunt? This is like the war on drugs can never win.
Go for the hunt they are fun.
Larry

It is a natural instinct in man and animal to fight for survival - your lioness went through these motions, whether she was canned or not. How many circus and zoo lions/tigers have stiffed their trainers? - what about the pet dog that turns on its owner because it got whacked too hard?
When an animal is hurt bad it will react against the source.

How about you have this conversation somewhere else?

Brett

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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
How about you have this conversation somewhere else?

Brett

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