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I am flying on Air France to Africa on my first Buffalo hunt in July. I have heard rumor to stay away from British Airways where flying with Hunting Rifles. I have not heard anything good or bad on Air France regarding traveling with sports arms. Any word of wisdom out there, as to what to expect in service. I also have been told that if you fly via Amsterdam on KLM they will confiscate any ammo if they find same in checked baggage, any truth to this. Any information is appreciated Thanks | ||
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Absolutely not true about KLM. I've found Amsterdam to be very easy to transit for the last ten years. I don't have any direct experience with Air France, but would go through Amsterdam without any hesitation. I have always put ammo in checked baggage, as have others whose trips I helped with and none have ever had a problem. | |||
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Used Air France twice to and from Oslo / Johannesburg via Paris. No hassel at all. Just remember to inform them in ample time that you are traveling with a sporting firearm. They need size and weight on your gun case, type, caliber and serial # on your firearms. If not, you will have problem checking in. Arild Iversen. | |||
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Raghorn52 I've used Air France, KLM and British Airways. I've had no real problems with any of them and you shouldn't either. As long as you follow the policies of each you'll have no problems. BA is in fact my preferred carrier. The service is better and they offer the best record of any airline servicing Africa from the USA for delivering luggage with the passengers. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I'm with Mark, Britsh Airways was great to me last year and if/when I go in 2010, I'm gonna fly with them again. All they want is gun info, make, cal, ser. no, 72 hours before flying and they were happy with me last year. Just make sure you fly in and out of same airport in England ( ie, London, or Gatwick, don't transfer between them, then that involves British gunlaws which is not the same as what British Airways wants) and you'll be fine. | |||
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At one time, I had over 250,000 FF miles with BA. Never have flown them on a hunt, but I used to fly them down to Africa through LHR all the time. One of my favorite air carriers A short story: In December, 1987, my crew and I, plus a couple of Brit contract engineers (mechanics to U.S. folks) left LHR to Nairobi to connect to Addis. We would be gone for Christmas flying famine relief. The BA counter people immediately upgraded us to Business and we were treated like visiting firemen all the way to NBO. When we left the plane at NBO, the entire cabin crew met us at the exit door with five or six cartons of Scotch minitures. They told us to take it with us for ourselves and all the fellows who would be spending Christmas and New Years in Ethiopia. That permanently endeared me to BA and I flew them every chance I had until I retired. A great airline. | |||
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I don't think BA will let you take firearms if your final destination is Zimbabwe. If you transit through Amsterdam, you will need a permit for your rifle, even if it is checked through... I think??? JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Judge, Those tricky travel agents like Kathi Klimes and the Gracy crew can make about anything happen. Personally I'd do about anything rather than take that SAA or Delta flight to RSA. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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My wife and I flew Air France from New York to Paris to Jo'burg, and back the same route, on our Safari to Zimbabwe last August and had absolutely no problems. You just need to make sure that your travel agent applies ahead of time with Air France regarding your firearms and ammo. I used Shawn at Gracy and she had everything taken care of well ahead of time as usual. | |||
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Non, non, non, mon ami. Les francais sont plus amiables que les anglais ou les americains. Pas de problem. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Living in France, I obviously have flown on Air France with firearms many times. I have never had any type of problem. But, I follow their one rule: I let them know 5 days before check-in that I will be travelling with a firearm. They add a note to your dossier and know exactly what to do when you check-in. It has always gone smoothly for me. For people in transit, they will even let you take your rifles into Paris if you are planning a night or two in Paris on either leg. In fact, they don't really care that you have firearms. Many French hunt, and many of them in Africa, it's no big deal. The only possible glitch could occur if you want to leave the airport with a rifle(s) in a "controlled" caliber like 30-06 Springfield or .308 Winchester, which are considered military calibers. But if you are travelling with an H&H caliber, or any Magnum, or any of the big stuff never chambered in a service rifle then all you will get is a "ho-hum". _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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As most have said - follow the rules for advising the airline of your firearms and ammunition. As long as you do this you should have no problem - if possible get the airline to send you an email confirmation for your rifles and ammuntion. This way should you get questioned at check-in you have a copy. Beware - most EU countries are now enforcing the ban on firearms to Zimbabwe. Steve | |||
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Vive La France!!!!!!!!! Verbera!, Iugula!, Iugula!!! Blair. | |||
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Mark, I enjoy your posts and you seem like a good guy, however, if you want to never see you guns again try something creative or magic that involves firearms and HRE as the destination. You do not want HRE on the same piece of ticket stock you present to the BA rep. Cheers, Adrian | |||
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Adrian, If a client wants to get to Harare through London or othe EU hub cities a travel agent like Katthi Klimes or The Gracy team can make it happen with no hassle. Another good reason not to use the Internet for your safari travel. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Around 2001 the UK government saw fit to place an Arms Embargo on the Mugabe regime. Like most UK government rulings in the past 12 years is was a pretty blunt instrument and was written to included all "Arms" including sporting firearms. I was in heated correspondance at the time with the Govt department responsible but sense did not prevail. I know that as a UK citizen I cannot travel with firearms to Zim, but they probably turn a blind eye for other nationalities. ------------------------------ Richard VENARI LAVARE LUDERE RIDERE OCCEST VIVERE | |||
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