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We are blessed to have some real craftsman in the gunmaking trade. I thought I would share a couple of pictures of a stock repair that JJ Perodeau did recently for me. Last month I purchased a Westley Richards .375 H&H that had had its original stock broken in shipping at some point in its life. The rifle had been restocked in a McMillan fiberglass stock that actually looked very nice but I wanted to see if the original stock could be repaired. I was not optimistic given the nature of the break which you can see below. I inquired with JJ and he said to send it to him. Several weeks later JJ calls me to say he is ready to ship the stock back to me. Take a look at the before and after pictures. JJ described the repair to me and I am confident that if the stock breaks again . . . it will not be in the repaired area. I'm always amazed at what a true craftsman that is a master of their trade can do with their hands.





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Wow that looks great Mike!


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Good repair.. too bad the wood was a poor layout in the first place
 
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Very nice.

Tell us more about the rifle.
 
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Amazing!!


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Amazing work.


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Good repair.. too bad the wood was a poor layout in the first place


Duane, could you expand on your comment so some of us could learn something?
Thank you!
 
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Thanks for the fore and aft pictures.

Nice repair. That one appears to have taken a major hit from a jealous airline handler. Would the stock have survived had the grain (ultimately) turned down through the wrist? Tough call since I wasn't there and I'm a bit skeptical. But my experience is a drop in the bucket compared to DW's.
I watched a Mexican package handler slam our 6 bottles of Kahlua and some rum bottles down so hard it broke two of the bottles.


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I think Custom Bolt covered it, but yes, the grain (not necessarily water marks) really must follow the angle of the grip...the weakest part the stock.

Then the grain should follow the barrel, preferably slightly upward toward the tip.

If the wood happens to be nicely figured..you may have a keeper.
 
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I have a miroku sidelock with mr peredeau right now.

I can’t wait to get it back, not looking forward to seeing bill.
 
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Very nice.

Did he put a reinforcing rod in.
 
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He used two long screws that were put in behind the grip cap.


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How about some more photos of your Westley. would love to see it. Nice that you able to bring her back to original, looks great.

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Thanks for the reply Duane & guys!

I was curious, as I thought that a straight grain throughout the stock from the butt to fore end was the strongest and this rifle looked like it had that quality in the stock. I guess I learned something today!
 
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You're welcome.
The top gun and bottom gun have nice woodgrain through the wrist (grip).



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Learned something through this thread, thanks DW and Custombolt for the info, and cheers Mike on your rifle
 
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Great repair. Hardly noticeable and I bet a hell of a lot stronger now.

I am toying with a repair on a M70 Safari Express stock that has split from front crossbolts to rear of action on left hand side. You can see external setback on rear of front crossbolts. Never rebedded from crappy factory thermoplastic bedding. Is a 458 Win Mag and obviously set back and accordioning of magazine walls ( as per Jack Lott in Big Bore Rifles) and split stock between front recoil lug and magazine well.


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I think David Miller Co always put a rod through the grip on a timber stock.

JJ has done a wonderful job.


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A rod thru the grip on the OP rifle could have helped the basically improper laid out stock.

Most failures I've seen is a break right at the rear guard screw and most likely caused by by some anti gun at UPS driving over the case with a fork lift!! Or...anti gun baggage handler (Tire tracks prove it!)

A rod won't help a bit. because the rod does not bridge that weakest part...the guard screw area.

Rally want a super strong grip...go with extended tangs. I always recommend these on the really heavy hitters, such as 500 Jeff, 505 Gibbs, etc.

Of course. a bullet proof gun case is mandatory.
 
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Of the 3 guns Custom Bolt has shown pics of, I would have chosen the middle blank based on figure, not layout. I guess that's the problem. A lot of good looking blanks but not many that are laid out properly or perhaps perfectly...
 
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I've seen a couple blanks with awesome figure where the grain went sideways through the grip area when viewed from the top.

Here's the grain flow through the grip of the middle stock showing the top and other side.



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I have a miroku sidelock with mr peredeau right now.

I can’t wait to get it back, not looking forward to seeing bill.

How do I reach this Mr Peredeau~? Forearm on a Win 1885 needs repair.
 
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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
A rod thru the grip on the OP rifle could have helped the basically improper laid out stock.

Most failures I've seen is a break right at the rear guard screw and most likely caused by by some anti gun at UPS driving over the case with a fork lift!! Or...anti gun baggage handler (Tire tracks prove it!)

A rod won't help a bit. because the rod does not bridge that weakest part...the guard screw area.

Rally want a super strong grip...go with extended tangs. I always recommend these on the really heavy hitters, such as 500 Jeff, 505 Gibbs, etc.

Of course. a bullet proof gun case is mandatory.


So it’s not just for looks? Nice. Wow. There is so much to learn here.
 
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here is Mr Peredeau located. There is a Custom Gun Maker Guild guy I use out in Vanderbilt PA. Does great work too. I NEED to go to the Tusla show at least once in my life (why don't the run it for 4 of 5 days?), and see it in November this year, so just might get things set up to go. like Wiebes explanation of the problem and solution.
 
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here is Mr Peredeau located. There is a Custom Gun Maker Guild guy I use out in Vanderbilt PA. Does great work too. I NEED to go to the Tusla show at least once in my life (why don't the run it for 4 of 5 days?), and see it in November this year, so just might get things set up to go. like Wiebes explanation of the problem and solution.

Is his name Bill Simmen~?
 
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