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Jmbrown
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I picked up a new custom rifle at the Tulsa Arms Show last weekend, built on a Yugoslavian 24 action and chambered in 7x57. I've been working up some loads for it and am having great results with 150 gr Sierra Gamekings and Reloader 19. I can't find any makers name on it and the only markings are on the barrel just in front of the action. Anybody have any idea on who it might have been built by?









 
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Ya, I didn't think it would be any of the top builders that would have made it, but just wanted to see if anybody had any ideas on it from the markings. I figured it probably is a Douglas barrel from the markings but just wasn't sure what the J inside the circle might be for.

The rifle does have its few flaws but it just really seemed to catch my eye, and I've been wanting a nice 7x57 to play with.
 
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Thanks, I'm very happy with it. It has a heavier contoured barrel that makes it a pleasure to shoot with about the recoil of a 243.
 
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Why don't I ever find cool stuff like this!

The best I've done is a Feinwerkbau 124 for $150 about 10 years ago.

A friend of mine got a Winchester Model 100 in .308 NIB (original box) at Cabela's in Buda 5 years ago. WOW to that!


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Very nice rifle! If you don't mind me saying so, it is a little like the one I posted pics of in this forum a day or two ago--a very nice job by a guy who is/was not at the very top of his craft, but who could turn out a nice rifle that a working man could afford to buy and would be proud to own. Congratulations on your recent purchase!
 
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Thanks! I noticed some of the resemblances of your rifle as well. Have you pulled yours out of the stock to see if there are any markings on the bottom of the barrel or in the barrel channel? If you dont mind me asking, where are you located in Oklahohoma?
 
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Why don't I ever find cool stuff like this!

The best I've done is a Feinwerkbau 124 for $150 about 10 years ago.

A friend of mine got a Winchester Model 100 in .308 NIB (original box) at Cabela's in Buda 5 years ago. WOW to that!


Haha gotta be in the right place at the right time!
 
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Thanks! I noticed some of the resemblances of your rifle as well. Have you pulled yours out of the stock to see if there are any markings on the bottom of the barrel or in the barrel channel? If you dont mind me asking, where are you located in Oklahoma?

The only markings on the barrel (beside the caliber) are the letters, "CP". The maker's name (J.E. Moates) and the name of the original owner are inscribed on the magazine floor plate. I'm in Lawton.
 
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I think that your rifle is a perfect example of what a simple, purposeful tool, that can also be continually admired, should look like. I have in my collection several more perfectly executed works of art, but they never seem to come out of the safe. Great find.
 
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I think that your rifle is a perfect example of what a simple, purposeful tool, that can also be continually admired, should look like. I have in my collection several more perfectly executed works of art, but they never seem to come out of the safe. Great find.


Thanks. That's exactly how I saw the rifle as well, a nice classic custom that is as pleasing to look at as it is to use. I have a nicer custom as well built by John Mercer and Mark Penrod, and I use and enjoy it as well. Here's a picture of it.
 
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Jmbrown, I have seen pictures of that Mark Penrod rifle of yours somewhere on the 'Net. It deserves a pic-laden post of its own!
 
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Jmbrown, I have seen pictures of that Mark Penrod rifle of yours somewhere on the 'Net. It deserves a pic-laden post of its own!


I've been meaning to do a post for it. Maybe I'll get around to getting some really good pictures of it soon and do that. It's actually back at Penrod's now for a new barrel.
 
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Why do you rebarrel it? Beautiful rifle!
 
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I think that your rifle is a perfect example of what a simple, purposeful tool, that can also be continually admired, should look like. I have in my collection several more perfectly executed works of art, but they never seem to come out of the safe. Great find.


Well said, I could very easily find a home for it in my safe.
 
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Why do you rebarrel it? Beautiful rifle!


After many years of use the headspacing had worn it's way to the top of tolerance, and the inside of the barrel looked like an alligator hide from all the fire cracking.
 
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I was on my way to a gunshop to pick up two guns I had been wanting and I stopped by a gunshow just for S&G.

I ended up passing on a custom 218 Bee in a Highwall that had been done in the 1940's and a very nice VZ-24 6.5x55 that had an amazing stock for not much money.

I don't remember my purchases as they have long since been traded away, but those two rifles are reminders to not hesitate on good guns.
 
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I was on my way to a gunshop to pick up two guns I had been wanting and I stopped by a gunshow just for S&G.

I ended up passing on a custom 218 Bee in a Highwall that had been done in the 1940's and a very nice VZ-24 6.5x55 that had an amazing stock for not much money.

I don't remember my purchases as they have long since been traded away, but those two rifles are reminders to not hesitate on good guns.


I bet that 218 Bee would have been a blast to shoot!
I have ended up trading and selling off quite a few nice factory rifles in a hurry to get the nicer custom rifles before sombody else did and have no regrets on doing so.
 
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Whoever made that gun did so post-WWII and had a very good eye for line. I wouldn't be surprised if it was old Nubs Fashingbauer.


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Whoever made that gun did so post-WWII and had a very good eye for line. I wouldn't be surprised if it was old Nubs Fashingbauer.


Thanks, I'll see if I can find anything that may link the rifle to him.
 
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IIRC the circle J was used by Paul Jaeger. You might contact Dietrich Apel or J. Mercer for confirmation.
 
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Beautiful pick up, great caliber. Congrats


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IIRC the circle J was used by Paul Jaeger. You might contact Dietrich Apel or J. Mercer for confirmation.


Thanks for the info. I just emailed John Mercer and he said he's not for sure if it's a Jaeger rifle and the date on the barrel was about 10 years before he started working there. Guess I need to see if I can find an email address for Dietrich Apel now.
 
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Beautiful pick up, great caliber. Congrats


Thanks!
 
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Very nice gun. All the gun shows around here have are black guns and overpriced Remington pumps.
 
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you might be able to contact Dietrich Apel here

www.germanhuntingguns.com
 
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Thanks for the lead, I will try to contact him.
 
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Sorry to butt in here. But, if any of you Penrod fans are also bench rest-wildcat fans, might want to head over to GunBroker and search this title. Seems like a lot of gun at a low starting bid. CB
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Sorry to butt in here. But, if any of you Penrod fans are also bench rest-wildcat fans, might want to head over to GunBroker and search this title. Seems like a lot of gun at a low starting bid. CB
J.M. PENROD Bench Rifle 6mm BR


That is a good deal.
 
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Very nice mauser. Great lines. Congrats Smiler
 
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According to my Jaeger info. your rifle was made by Paul Jaeger Co. when Dietrich Apel ran the company in Tennessee. The half circle with the "J" inside means it was made by Jaeger. Their (logo). Made in June 1978 with a XXX Douglas barrel and was the 317th rifle made there. Hope this helps.
 
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Thanks for the info Tom.
 
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BTW, Jmbrown, the wood on your Penrod/Mercer is wonderful. I really like the contrast of that fine ink grain against the lighter wood. CB


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BTW, Jmbrown, the wood on your Penrod/Mercer is wonderful. I really like the contrast of that fine ink grain against the lighter wood. CB


Thanks! I love the wood on it as well. I can't wait to get it back from Penrod after he gets the new barrel on it and see how it shoots.
 
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Same caliber for the new barrel? Which?


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Anybody have any idea on who it might have been built by?


No idea. But it is a very nice looking weapon indeed. Thank you for sharing the picture.
 
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Anybody have any idea on who it might have been built by?


No idea. But it is a very nice looking weapon indeed. Thank you for sharing the picture.


Thanks! I've really enjoyed the rifle.
 
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Same caliber for the new barrel? Which?


Yes, it will still be a 7mm Rem Mag. I couldn't think of a caliber that would have been much better for an all around hunting caliber for anything from antelope to elk.
 
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Lots of great bullets in .284's. Never owned a 7mm RM. Let me know how it shoots through the new barrel and the barrel twist. I'm a huge fan of 7's.


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It's going to be a 1:9 twist. I'm a big fan of the 7mm's as well. I'm planning on shooting 160 gr Sierra Gamekings out of it, but will try several other bullets as well to see how they do.
 
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I'm hooked on Noslers. I recently had a short barreled 7X57 (16 inch maybe) with a 1:8.7 inch twist that loved 175 grain Nosler Partitions and H4831. I'm not sure how they or H4831 powder would perform in a magnum 7.


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