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Greetings All, Just to update the Forum and let you know that I am off onto new career adventures and as a result I no longer work for or am associated with Legendary Arms Works. Contact them directly at their Web site for any questions you may have. I wish them luck in their endeavor. Thanks Paul "Diligentia - Vis - Celeritas" NRA Benefactor Member Member DRSS | ||
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Paul, thanks for posting this info. Can you tell me if they are using the same high tech specialties stock pattern(s) or are they specific to the new LAW rifles? | |||
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Paul, A lot of great features with this offering. I'm excited to see someone offer a package that like this that doesn't use the portly B&C stock. Two questions- Is the 1-10 twist set in stone for the 243? I believe I saw a photo on your site that shows the boltface is cerakoted. If so, upon placing an order, can this be omitted? | |||
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Paul, will these rifles be available in LH configuration? Thanks Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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Paul: When will it be possible to order a rifle? Also, can a gun be purchased through Trop? Thanks! | |||
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From above: "Our plans and ideas are many and include a true magnum sized action and eventually left handed configured actions." Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Thanks Frank, I missed that...trying to read from my phone screen Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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Another "modern day" action. What is wrong with the old one - say an exact duplicate of a 1935 Mauser made Chilean action or something like that, made with "Modern" materials? | |||
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I have 5 Mauser 98s - 8x57, 9.3x57, 9.3x62, 7mm Rem Mag, 458 Win Mag - and I wouldn't trade any of them (and for CRF, I guess you could add in my two 1917 Enfields and Ruger RSM). I like the aesthetics of the 98, but the 704 is functionality and simplicity redefined. I bought a Mauser M03 a few years ago in 375 H&H with a 300 Weatherby barrel because I wanted a modern design rifle. Looking at the 704, I'd much prefer to have two rifles from them in 375 H&H and 300 Weatherby. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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MSRP for The Closer (their least expensive) is only $1599. If it's anything like the rest of the gun industry, street pricing will probably be $12-1300. I'd call that a bargain if it lives up to ½ the marketing claims. | |||
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Nice looking rifles, but I don't understand the logic for the Professional model. It has a muzzle break and flutes, but weighs the same as the closer, and it costs over $200 more? For the price difference, I would expect it to weigh significantly less than the Professional. | |||
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tell me how any bolt action can "redefine the functionally and simplicity..." of a 98 Mauser? That is a bold statement indeed. The arms manufacturers, world over, have been trying to do that for over a hundred years now, without much to show for their efforts. The OM 70 is a great option. The CZ crf models are a very viable choice. It will be interesting to see how this fares in the market place. Check back in five years and see if they survive. Rich | |||
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If this gun equals the previous Ed Brown rifles for $1600, it will more than survive. It will thrive. HS Precision is selling guns at a pretty fast clip for more than twice this price. I am anxious to see one. I can see a 280AI and a Creedmore in my future! | |||
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Im glad to hear you will be providing just actions to the trade! May have to buy one... http://www.facebook.com/profil...p?id=100001646464847 A.M. Little Bespoke Gunmakers LLC 682-554-0044 Michael08TDK@yahoo.com | |||
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"For example the fact that the bolt does not have the long typical Mauser extractor means less metal to metal contact and makes the M704 very smooth in the bolt throw." I don't think this is fact. What about a bolt guide rib...does your action have one? | |||
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I went to the web site and read through the specs. Aluminum bottom metal? I'm not much into aluminum, even using a synthetic stock. Will guard screw spacing allow any other to be used? Are there plans for milled steel in the future? Ya' had me real interested until 'aluminum' came up. | |||
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Silvers I agree with you. I would prefer to pay extra for steel on the Professional and Big Bore. Leave the Closer Aluminum to make it lighter weight. Even with the aluminum I'm a customer! | |||
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Thanks for the overview Paul, much appreciated. What is the muzzle diameter of your #3 contour barrel and can you say who is manufacturing them? | |||
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I believe from what Paul stated in his OP that the 704 actions take M700 bottom metal. Just get a steel unit from PT@G. I too would like to know who the barrels are made by. And a varmint model to round off the line up would be nice. I always thought the Ed Brown 704 rifle was a great design......now I can buy one! | |||
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AHHHHH ,, there it is, "will accept 700 bottom metal". Long opening post,, I missed that. I used PT&G on a build not long ago. Never again. I'll spend the money and save my time (and labor) and use Williams, minimum, and Sunny Hill when called for. I see Dakota makes bottom metal, too. I haven't held any made by them, yet. | |||
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They would all be better I imagine. | |||
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Paul, They look great. I didnt make SHOT this year but I look forward to handling one. Rob | |||
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I would like this info. as well. Should be included on your spec sheet Tom Z NRA Life Member | |||
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Thanks Paul. Appreciate the feedback, mate  | |||
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As a tool maker and gun maker I would be very interested in seeing your facilities and handling an action first hand. While my production background is something of a different form, I would be very interested to see your cutting edge setup and machinery. Please advise (as I am close-ish), I will be looking forward to specs and pricing. thanks Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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Paul, I have two of Marks rifles and so long as he is running the manufacturing department for the LAW rifles everyone can be assured of outstanding materials and workmanship. Mark and his team know how to build and have built the best, most accurate rifles for any amount of money. The trick for LAW is how not to impede Marks team while they build and refine these fine rifles. I seriously do hope to see the top end of Ultimate rifle building by Mark offered once you get the basics of the company moving along. It would be a crying shame to see that ultimate talent "retired". I wish you and the team well in this business venture. | |||
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Paul, What is the max cartridge O.A.L. for the short action? I assume probably 2.8", but with the VLD bullets, 3" wouldn't hurt. Thanks Matt Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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Paul: Any chance for an update? I have some money burning a hole in my pocket for a Creedmore. When can I spend it? | |||
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Are you saying you are doing them with "A" high dollar CNC machine? While I can appreciate your background we can't give away ALL our secrets but I can tell you two things are needed: a $$$$$ CNC machine and lot of smart people working hard | |||
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It's a $1,600 rifle, not a $10,000 custom. | |||
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That would really depend on what the individual customer-owner prefers. | |||
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Well, I don't have any experience with high dollar CNC machines, the most expensive I have run was a $850,000 5-axis bought about 10 years ago. Not really anything high dollar, so I doubt I would be smart enough to steal many secrets. The key, not secret, is the smart people you have working for you. Take care of them and you will be quite successful. Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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I agree Mr. Myers. | |||
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Far too many people miss this critical aspect of business... | |||
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Look on their site for dealers. They will gladly take your money and place an order. I placed an order six weeks ago or so and have no idea when rifle will be sent to dealer. | |||
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Not to butt in, but why would you pay for something and not have some sort of delivery date? Did you ask for one? | |||
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I paid a deposit. I asked for a timeframe from the dealer--not LAW--and was told he was not certain on when the gun would be received as he had no idea as to how many rifles were in front of mine. I want the rifle. To get in line for one you must place an order. I placed an order. I will get it when I get it. :-) | |||
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One caliber I did not see is 300 ultra mag | |||
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