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posted 07 October 2022 21:45
I am looking at a custom rifle. It has a "double square bridged Oberndorf Mauser action with all matching Serial Numbers".

Not being an expert, my question is - is this a big deal worthy of extra expense?

I see so many varieties of Mauser actions out there - Peruvian, Mexican, Czech, etc along with variations- that I really cannot assess if this is a big deal or not.

Your comments are appreciated.
 
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posted 07 October 2022 23:01Hide Post
Ross, is it a magnum caliber? A true (un-notched) Oberndorf Magnum Mauser action is quite a prize.
 
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posted 08 October 2022 02:38Hide Post
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Originally posted by dogcat:
I am looking at a custom rifle. It has a "double square bridged Oberndorf Mauser action with all matching Serial Numbers".

Not being an expert, my question is - is this a big deal worthy of extra expense?

I see so many varieties of Mauser actions out there - Peruvian, Mexican, Czech, etc along with variations- that I really cannot assess if this is a big deal or not.

Your comments are appreciated.


Yes, this is a very big deal. Oberndorf Mauser commercial actions are as good as they get and a double square bridge action is very, very desirable. I would expect it would be appropriately expensive. Note: This is a commercial product made in limited numbers not a military action made by the millions.

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posted 08 October 2022 02:53Hide Post
Jon and Rogers,
Yes, all original, unnotched and pristine.
It is for a .300WM right now.

Any idea on value?

Thanks
 
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posted 08 October 2022 02:55Hide Post
Could be...just make sure it's not an aftermarket weld on square bridge...been done a lot....
 
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posted 08 October 2022 03:04Hide Post
Duane,
Thanks. Your advise and experience is always appreciated!
Ross
 
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posted 08 October 2022 03:23Hide Post
dogcat.
Got any pictures of it? Need help getting them on here? Shoot me a PM for my email. I'm pretty good at pics with my Postimage.


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posted 08 October 2022 05:35Hide Post
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posted 08 October 2022 21:43Hide Post
You need to post a picture because there are more modern made ones, and fake ones welded up out of standard 98s, than there were originals; so only seeing it will provide you the information you need.
Original Mauser Mag Actions are rare and very expensive. As RA said.
Additionally, to me, putting a 300 WM on a true original Magnum action is a waste and a sacrilege; those actions were made for true long/fat/traditional cartridges. One of which the 300 WM, ain't.
And Original and Untouched; since the 300 WM was not available when those actions were being made in the 30s, that is suspect right there.
 
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posted 08 October 2022 22:22Hide Post
I had my hands on one of these actions last year - still had the price tag on it. Outta my league... a really nice piece of work,.
 
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posted 09 October 2022 02:52Hide Post
Newly made one, I assume?
 
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posted 09 October 2022 08:04Hide Post
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Originally posted by custombolt:
For Dogcat. "Based on a commercial Oberndorf. Like he said. Custom. And a fine one at that. I'll leave sharing the seller up to the OP.



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posted 09 October 2022 09:52Hide Post
Looks like one of Ralf's guns... he's a straight shooter and a helluva custom gunmaker. Give him a call and he can fill you in on the details.


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posted 09 October 2022 19:39Hide Post
Ross, the only downside is that you'd have to wear a suit and tie when hunting with a rifle like that!
 
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posted 10 October 2022 00:48Hide Post
Sure is a nice one. Wonder who the builder was since none was mentioned on Ralf's website.


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posted 11 October 2022 16:06Hide Post
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Originally posted by Biebs:
Ross, the only downside is that you'd have to wear a suit and tie when hunting with a rifle like that!


Doesn't look like the original owner hunted it all.

That seems to be a problem with beautiful customs.
 
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posted 11 October 2022 19:41Hide Post
I thought he had an Original Oberndorf Mauser Magnumm Rifle.
So, not a big deal; it's a new custom rifle.
 
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posted 12 October 2022 13:55Hide Post
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Hey Ross, As stated a clean Oberndorf Mauser double square bridge is a great find and carries a hefty price tag. What I dont get is the caliber at .300 WM when I would expect to see this in a DG caliber.

Oberndorf Mauser double square bridge on a .300 WM - Ok, but would not have been my first choice.

My 2 cents

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posted 15 October 2022 20:57Hide Post
Thanks all. I decided to pass and stay with my tried and true Model 70 actions.

I appreciate the shared learnings here.
 
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posted 16 October 2022 12:07Hide Post
Run the serial number by those provided by Jon Speed in his "Original Oberndorf M98 Sporter Variations" treatise. That might provide a clue as to whether this custom Mauser started life as a true Original Oberndorf Sporter.
 
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posted 17 October 2022 02:17Hide Post
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Originally posted by bwanamrm:
Looks like one of Ralf's guns... he's a straight shooter and a helluva custom gunmaker. Give him a call and he can fill you in on the details.


If this rifle was made by Ralf Martini I would have no questions as to the quality of materials and build.
 
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posted 17 October 2022 16:51Hide Post
Ralf made it and did the mods himself. He is one of the very best at his trade.
 
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posted 17 October 2022 18:01Hide Post
I was curious about the made in Germany lettering on the floor plate. Is this typical of commercial mausers? Like I said, just curious, not in any way critical.
 
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posted 17 October 2022 21:25Hide Post
Ralf uses Heym barrels and bottom metal on occasion. I have a .300 WM he built and it has a Heym barrel. For the record, it is accurate and I have hunted North America and Africa with it. Very nice rifle...


On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died.

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch...
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
- Rudyard Kipling

Life grows grim without senseless indulgence.
 
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posted 18 October 2022 06:44Hide Post
He did? Wonder why it isn't marked accordingly. Maybe an early one? Customer didn't want it marked. Just curious as usual.
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Originally posted by dogcat:
Ralf made it and did the mods himself. He is one of the very best at his trade.


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posted 01 November 2022 01:12Hide Post
On a gun I intend to use, I don't really mind a properly done double square bridge weld and prefer it to a round top, and on a big bore..

that said an original is preferred and at several thousand dollars more..Take your pick..and I don't mind a round top Mauser drilled and tapped as well..

ONe is collectable land the other two are not, but all are expensive custom rifles..I would not drag a "beautiful collectable" rifle thru Alaska or AFrica, thats just stupidity and uncalled for..


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Filer, Idaho, 83328
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