Is this a big deal for a custom?

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07 October 2022, 21:45

dogcat

Is this a big deal for a custom?

I am looking at a custom rifle. It has a "double square bridged Oberndorf Mauser action with all matching Serial Numbers".

Not being an expert, my question is - is this a big deal worthy of extra expense?

I see so many varieties of Mauser actions out there - Peruvian, Mexican, Czech, etc along with variations- that I really cannot assess if this is a big deal or not.

Your comments are appreciated.

07 October 2022, 23:01

Biebs

Ross, is it a magnum caliber? A true (un-notched) Oberndorf Magnum Mauser action is quite a prize.

08 October 2022, 02:38

RogersGunWorks

quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
I am looking at a custom rifle. It has a "double square bridged Oberndorf Mauser action with all matching Serial Numbers".

Not being an expert, my question is - is this a big deal worthy of extra expense?

I see so many varieties of Mauser actions out there - Peruvian, Mexican, Czech, etc along with variations- that I really cannot assess if this is a big deal or not.

Your comments are appreciated.

Yes, this is a very big deal. Oberndorf Mauser commercial actions are as good as they get and a double square bridge action is very, very desirable. I would expect it would be appropriately expensive. Note: This is a commercial product made in limited numbers not a military action made by the millions.

Roger

08 October 2022, 02:53

dogcat

Jon and Rogers,
Yes, all original, unnotched and pristine.
It is for a .300WM right now.

Any idea on value?

Thanks

08 October 2022, 02:55

Duane Wiebe (CG&R)

Could be...just make sure it's not an aftermarket weld on square bridge...been done a lot....

08 October 2022, 03:04

dogcat

Duane,
Thanks. Your advise and experience is always appreciated!
Ross

08 October 2022, 03:23

custombolt

dogcat.
Got any pictures of it? Need help getting them on here? Shoot me a PM for my email. I'm pretty good at pics with my Postimage.

08 October 2022, 05:35

dogcat

PM sent

08 October 2022, 21:43

dpcd

You need to post a picture because there are more modern made ones, and fake ones welded up out of standard 98s, than there were originals; so only seeing it will provide you the information you need.
Original Mauser Mag Actions are rare and very expensive. As RA said.
Additionally, to me, putting a 300 WM on a true original Magnum action is a waste and a sacrilege; those actions were made for true long/fat/traditional cartridges. One of which the 300 WM, ain't.
And Original and Untouched; since the 300 WM was not available when those actions were being made in the 30s, that is suspect right there.

08 October 2022, 22:22

BaxterB

I had my hands on one of these actions last year - still had the price tag on it. Outta my league... a really nice piece of work,.

09 October 2022, 02:52

dpcd

Newly made one, I assume?

09 October 2022, 08:04

custombolt

quote:
Originally posted by custombolt:
For Dogcat. "Based on a commercial Oberndorf. Like he said. Custom. And a fine one at that. I'll leave sharing the seller up to the OP.

09 October 2022, 09:52

bwanamrm

Looks like one of Ralf's guns... he's a straight shooter and a helluva custom gunmaker. Give him a call and he can fill you in on the details.

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Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch...
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And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
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Life grows grim without senseless indulgence.

09 October 2022, 19:39

Biebs

Ross, the only downside is that you'd have to wear a suit and tie when hunting with a rifle like that!

10 October 2022, 00:48

custombolt

Sure is a nice one. Wonder who the builder was since none was mentioned on Ralf's website.

11 October 2022, 16:06

p dog shooter

quote:
Originally posted by Biebs:
Ross, the only downside is that you'd have to wear a suit and tie when hunting with a rifle like that!

Doesn't look like the original owner hunted it all.

That seems to be a problem with beautiful customs.

11 October 2022, 19:41

dpcd

I thought he had an Original Oberndorf Mauser Magnumm Rifle.
So, not a big deal; it's a new custom rifle.

12 October 2022, 13:55

Charlie64

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Hey Ross, As stated a clean Oberndorf Mauser double square bridge is a great find and carries a hefty price tag. What I dont get is the caliber at .300 WM when I would expect to see this in a DG caliber.

Oberndorf Mauser double square bridge on a .300 WM - Ok, but would not have been my first choice.

My 2 cents

.

15 October 2022, 20:57

dogcat

Thanks all. I decided to pass and stay with my tried and true Model 70 actions.

I appreciate the shared learnings here.

16 October 2022, 12:07

eagle27

Run the serial number by those provided by Jon Speed in his "Original Oberndorf M98 Sporter Variations" treatise. That might provide a clue as to whether this custom Mauser started life as a true Original Oberndorf Sporter.

17 October 2022, 02:17

Alec Torres

quote:
Originally posted by bwanamrm:
Looks like one of Ralf's guns... he's a straight shooter and a helluva custom gunmaker. Give him a call and he can fill you in on the details.

If this rifle was made by Ralf Martini I would have no questions as to the quality of materials and build.

17 October 2022, 16:51

dogcat

Ralf made it and did the mods himself. He is one of the very best at his trade.

17 October 2022, 18:01

squeezenhope

I was curious about the made in Germany lettering on the floor plate. Is this typical of commercial mausers? Like I said, just curious, not in any way critical.

17 October 2022, 21:25

bwanamrm

Ralf uses Heym barrels and bottom metal on occasion. I have a .300 WM he built and it has a Heym barrel. For the record, it is accurate and I have hunted North America and Africa with it. Very nice rifle...

18 October 2022, 06:44

custombolt

He did? Wonder why it isn't marked accordingly. Maybe an early one? Customer didn't want it marked. Just curious as usual.
CB

quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
Ralf made it and did the mods himself. He is one of the very best at his trade.

01 November 2022, 01:12

Atkinson

On a gun I intend to use, I don't really mind a properly done double square bridge weld and prefer it to a round top, and on a big bore..

that said an original is preferred and at several thousand dollars more..Take your pick..and I don't mind a round top Mauser drilled and tapped as well..

ONe is collectable land the other two are not, but all are expensive custom rifles..I would not drag a "beautiful collectable" rifle thru Alaska or AFrica, thats just stupidity and uncalled for..